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[–] Gerplunckamo 2 points 242 points (+244|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Smoke weed everyday.

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[–] leweb 1 points 62 points (+63|-1) ago 

Oh, they can. Have you heard of waterboarding?

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[–] Frenchgeek 1 points 131 points (+132|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Well that would just make me say what they want to hear, not the truth.

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[–] Gerplunckamo 10 points 15 points (+25|-10) ago  (edited ago)

Smoke weed every other day.

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[–] Shagoosty 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Torture has been shown to not get the truth to come out. You just tell your assailant what he wants to hear to get him to stop.

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_ESSENCE 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The point of torture is not to extract information.

It is a terror-tactic against an enemy. Otherwise, torture victims would be killed once they said whatever.

The whole reason torture victims are not killed, and they are later released, is so that their story can be passed on to their comrades outside of captivity. The torture is a terror tactic for them, and a tactic to gain political support at home, among the set of people who are scared of the terrorists, and have the primitive urge to terrorize back.

That's all torture is. That's all it is. Nothing more. The rest is all bullshit.

If it were for any other purpose, the people who were tortured would simply disappear, be tortured, then killed, and their bodies disposed of. Nobody would ever find out. There would be no reason for anybody else to ever find out. And nobody would. And I'm sure that some torture turns out this way. But the main point is to terrorize, and provoke a response. Why else would they take thousands of photos, and then pass them around?

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[–] markrod420 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Well said.

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[–] tabernumse 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

And theres nothing you can do about it.

Yet.

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[–] Gerplunckamo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Fair enough

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[–] BAMFSoB 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thats until the Thought Police are formed.

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[–] Lunch_Box 2 points 178 points (+180|-2) ago  (edited ago)

"People say that the Government should have no secrets that the Citizens can't access". FTFY

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[–] Calibas 0 points 89 points (+89|-0) ago 

If they've done nothing wrong they should have nothing to hide...

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[–] Ancient_Unknown 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

Which is why they hide most of what they do.

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[–] GizaDog 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

The government is perfect!

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[–] profanion 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This argument has gotten even worse as in these days you don't often know if you've done something wrong!

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[–] jaceame 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Don't you understand they are just trying to protect us. Knowing who is being killed is too dangerous for the people paying for the killing.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"We killed some suspected terrorists by drone strike"

YOU WHAT?

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[–] ObliviousToObvious 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

ahem "national security"

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[–] Frenchgeek 0 points 35 points (+35|-0) ago 

"What kind of commie terrorist loving bastard are you to question the needs of the FBI?!"

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[–] jxfaith 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Are you some kind of constitutionalist?

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[–] Fancymoko 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

[Insert current enemy of state here]

FTFY

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[–] CONGLOM-O 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

All that constitution stuff sounds like some hippie mumbo jumbo to me

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[–] TalkingAnimal 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

I think it raises an interesting question. If the government does obtain a warrant, should they be able to access encrypted data? If it was a physical document locked in a physical safe, a warrant would permit them to destroy the safe or bring in a locksmith to access the document.

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[–] heili 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago 

But it doesn't require me to provide the keys or the combination to the safe. So they're welcome to try to break the encryption, or hire someone to try to break it, and it's not my fucking problem if that will take longer than any of us will be alive.

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[–] Dapostman 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for laying out in a concise form a correct argument showing just how totally bullshit his argument is.

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[–] blackblarneystone 0 points 59 points (+59|-0) ago 

Comey is a traitor to the Constitution

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

What are you, some kind of crazy Constitutionalist or something?

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[–] Koliup 1 points 49 points (+50|-1) ago 

Daily reminder war is peace. And chocolate rations have gone up from 70 grams to 40 grams.

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[–] theoldguy 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Don't forget "beatings will continue until morale improves"!

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[–] BillCo 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago 

Dear Director Comey,

Please send me all of your usernames and passwords for everything you access. That way we will be even,

Sincerely BillCo

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[–] sactostar 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I like this

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[–] taco 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I should start saying this is conversation when things like this article come up.

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[–] tonberry2 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Reminds me of when a TSA official claimed they had the authority to impose mandatory strip searches of every American without undergoing any rulemaking procedure or public comment. Not kidding either: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2469069/endpoint-security/does-dhs-have-the-authority-to-strip-search-passengers-like-it-claims-.html

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[–] whatthehelldamnguy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

And remember they are a private company, not a governmental agency.

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