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[–] flyawayhigh [S] 0 points 197 points (+197|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What do we think? I doubt it. A new population-resistant strain of TPP will come.

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[–] akuta 0 points 62 points (+62|-0) ago 

We've seen it with SOPA/CISPA, we've seen it with just about every piece of legislation that's been presented and shot down (or failed to meet muster in some other manner). This will be no different.

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[–] 1607801? 1 points 48 points (+49|-1) ago 

This. And not to mention that this is only a "prediction" of what the negotiations will come to.

/v/TPPrally still has a reason to exist.

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[–] LittleBobbyTables 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

Related: CISA has just failed (for now) ... but will be back

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[–] 1618769? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. - JFK

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[–] peacegnome 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What makes a trade agreement different than a domestic piece of shit legislation is that other countries have to agree to it. If you are going to screw over someone else's plebs then you need to compensate quite a bit. SOPA/CISPA just screw over our people, so you can do it freely (as long as you can sneak it past.

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[–] Lilgreen13 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yep, and it will probably be sneaked in with another bill that is only somewhat related.

"Never be afraid to mislabel a product." - Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 239.

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[–] nathan_295 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What is dead may never die, but rises more corrupt and more lucrative!

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[–] Stanley_Yelnats_IV 0 points 86 points (+86|-0) ago 

I hope he's right, but I remain skeptical. Our governments have put too much effort into it to let it die that easily.

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[–] AVX 0 points 43 points (+43|-0) ago 

Maybe it will become like SOPA, rearing its ugly head every year/few years or so, like an evil zombie bill.

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[–] HASTAG_GAY_PORN 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

That's almost every bill that doesn't get passed on the first go around. You need to read up on how legislation is made if you think every law gets passed on the first try.

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[–] VoteforPedro 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

I hope he's right too and I remain hopeful. Our governments have too much to lose to let this thing live.

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[–] jxfaith 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

For once, saved by the lack of common interests across borders.

Pardon me while I wax a bit poetic here, but there's absolutely delicious irony in the fact that the same forces that might have sparked a world war in the past may have just saved the world from super-national corporate power.

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[–] Sorahzahd 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I hope he's right, but I remain skeptical.

Good, and you definitely should. The problem with articles like these is that while this one may be genuinely celebrating, often these are made as plants to get people to stop discussion or outcry about a topic.

I won't accept that TPP is totally and completely dead for quite a while, regardless of whether any news source declares it. I want to see and verify that they're not trying again immediately for myself.

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[–] Krasnovia 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

My thoughts exactly.

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[–] MvrnShkr 2 points 81 points (+83|-2) ago 

Headline is a bit misleading. The chief economist for the magazine personally thinks the TPP is dead, that's all.

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[–] ABitStiffyInHere 3 points 41 points (+44|-3) ago 

Is it just me, or does Voat read the articles less than Reddit?

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[–] PintOfBees 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

I feel like people here come up with more inflammatory titles. Then other people get all hot and bothered and just respond to the title. This one isn't too bad but I see it a lot.

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think it's partly a game to see if you can guess the content of the article from weary experience, while the OP plays a game of obfuscation or baiting to get the readers actually playing in the first place.

For example: Bait = "The TPP is dead!" Guess = "I bet it's not." Truth = "It's just some guy predicting it's dead."

Person with the most accurate prediction + pithy comment wins.

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[–] HASTAG_GAY_PORN 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'd say about 10% of the articles on the front page have no place there and were just brought up by people mindlessly upvoting the title. Remember that black open carry march? That shit was from 2014 and got like ~450 upvotes.

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[–] sneakybells 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

...after no conclusion was found in the final round negotiations

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[–] The_Adventurist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And he didn't even say it was dead, just dead for now because of election cycles in the US and Canada.

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[–] 1606952? 0 points 42 points (+42|-0) ago 

Good news if true indeed. But when news items like this cross our screens, remember this: Many news articles serve to distract, placate, misinform, and generally manipulate the public discourse.

When anyone suggests you can let down your guard, don't take it at face value. Let down your guard on your own terms. Or don't at all. After all, restrictions that had been wrapped into the TPP went by other names over the years, such as CISPA. Is the TPP really dead? Confirm the kill before moving on to read "Top Ten Things You Need To Know Today."

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[–] Proppa 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Considering Obama signed off on this shit before the paper even finished landing on his desk, I would say the TPP dying is the least of our worries. And no, it doesn't matter who gets elected next time around. Stop fooling yourselves.

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[–] The_Evidence 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Thanks for playing Whose Democracy Is It Anyway? where the districts are made up and the votes don't matter.

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[–] sneakybells 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What about the other ones? TISA and friends

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[–] profanion 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

And DMCA is still alive and even active!

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[–] benis 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

So all we have to do is do the same when TPP 2.0 rears its head around. We just have to be vigilant.

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[–] drivick 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

We did it Reddit voat.

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[–] 1607901? 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

That's the joke. It's a meme.

But considering the article is an unfounded prediction about what the negotiations will come to, and even if it was actually dead, it will just come back in another form like it always has, we need to do something about it. And we can.

/v/TPPrally

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[–] drivick 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I was being ironic I know the actual citizens of those countries don't have any power to change a word in the agreement.

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[–] kirkis 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It makes sense, because America wasn't the only country getting fucked and it certainly wasn't the one getting fucked the hardest.

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[–] ScottRockview 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Sounds like a bait and switch. Something similar will try and be pushed on us, but it will have a name like "the world peace agreement", and how dare anybody go against world peace?

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[–] immibis 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The Think Of The Children Act (TOTCA) 2020: bans all electronic devices that could be used to produce child pornography. Possession of such a device is punishable as if you were producing child pornography. Of course, that requires manufacturers to produce locked-down devices that are randomly monitored by NSA employees and refuse to work offline...

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