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[–] CANCEL-CAT-FACTS 0 points 109 points (+109|-0) ago 

That judge needs to be removed and his past sentences handed down need to be reviewed. There are probably people in jail right now simply because their normally non-incarceration worthy crime happened to be adjudicated by him when he was having a bad day or didn't approve of their lifestyle or the color of their clothes.

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[–] I_CRUSH_JESTS 0 points 46 points (+46|-0) ago 

Yup, this judge is a douchenozzle. He was censured last year for jailing a woman for swearing, violating the Michigan Code of Judicial Conduct.

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[–] selpai 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

What the fuck? Also, i would be jailed for saying that?

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[–] Original_Username 8 points 6 points (+14|-8) ago  (edited ago)

Can you please not use the term "douchenozzle" as it triggers my memories of Reddit

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[–] RunsWithScissors 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

From the judge's opinion on that link:

The Internet's wonderful, thank you, Al Gore. But it also is a danger. You went online, to use a fisherman's expression, trolling for women to meet and have sex with. That seems to be part of our culture now: meet, hook up, have sex, sayonara. Totally inappropriate behavior. There is no excuse for this, whatsoever.

He's injecting a decades-old gaffe from a Vice President in the 90s to make a political dig in a teenager's sentencing?

"Judge" Dennis M. Wiley would be a douche if he were just making a stupid comment about kids "hooking up." But the fact that he's intentionally ruining lives makes him not just a douche; he's a terrible excuse for a human being, a waste of DNA and cells, and in fact compares unfavorably to people who actually should be in prison.

Dennis M. Wiley is a horrible, horrible person.

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[–] YesAndNo 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It should be such a simple principle: Justice for all...and no double standards, and nobody gets to abuse power and just choose to ruin somebody else's life...with the power of government. But in the real world, sadly it isn't that simple. Too many judges and prosecutors and cops (and politicians and others) abuse their power.

But the profusion of cell-phone video cameras, and the efficiency of video sharing over the Internet...are changing things. Not quickly enough for so many thousands of victims of these abuses of power--but still, things are going in the right direction. When tens of thousands of people see with their own eyes the videos, or the stories, of horrendous abuses, they make noise about it...and the press runs with it...and the politicians (who don't like to miss an easy opportunity to seem noble) take notice.

We need to continue being good citizens and getting angry, and speaking up, when public officials pervert their authority into a tool for oppression. Patriotism, in large measure, is helping your country be its best self.

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[–] Ophio 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Just as Metallica put it, justice is gone and raped...

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[–] Slyboots 1 points 68 points (+69|-1) ago 

Wow some people are defending the girl just because she is the minor and he should of asked for an ID. The dating app is for 18 or older why should he? Thats like asking a girl at the bar for her ID so you can take her home. I assume she is 21 or older already.

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[–] Angusvigerous 0 points 37 points (+37|-0) ago 

And you can still get done for statrape if they're out at the club. It's fucked.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"Meet, have sex, hook up, sayonara. Totally inappropriate behavior. There is no excuse for this whatsoever,"

"I know it when I see it"

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[–] i_honestly_didnt_kno 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Cases like this seriously call into the question the wisdom of making statutory rape a strict liability crime. Frankly, just the idea of "strict liability' in the criminal law is pretty unnerving.

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[–] bagano1 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

This country is so messed up.

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[–] mamwad 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The girl and the girl's mother never wanted to press charges. I will defend her because she's a stupid, horny teenager who fucked up. She didn't intend for this to happen. Her mother called the police because the girl disappeared. The police and prosecutors went after the guy even after the girl and her mother admitted it was the girl's fault. This is on the court.

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[–] VerbatimCat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I heard through a second hand source (The most recent JRE podcast with Josh Zepps) that the girl and her parents also appealed to not have him out on the sex offender's registry. But again, second hand source. If that is true, there's not much need for a defense of the girl. Same source stated he was originally arrested because she 'went missing' and her parents called the police out of fear, not to particularly prosecute him.

But again, second hand source and haven't done the research myself on it.

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[–] relevantinfoman 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Serious reply, the attendant that took the fake ID. I worked in a gas station with a guy who had like 2 years probation for selling alcohol to a girl who used her older sisters valid ID. With a TABC officer in line behind her. He apparently questioned her after the sale and she broke down and admitted it. Her crying testimony on the stand is the only reason he didn't go to jail. The store is not liable. The person with the TABC license is. Store just verifies that the employee went and got the license and employs them.

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[–] bagano1 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

This is like fucking Saudi Arabia or Yemen now. Some stupid punk uses a sibling's ID, clerk falls for it and they face going to prison? Seriously people? This is bullshit. These prosecutors and cops are just looking for excuses to put people in prison. It's a scam!

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[–] selpai 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's a good analogy, but a better one would be someone underage going to buy liquor without any ID, and the store simply sells it to them. Now who's liable?

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[–] Talimo 0 points 28 points (+28|-0) ago 

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[–] zquad 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You missed the part where he asked for consent every 7 seconds.

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[–] revofire 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I lost it at palm reader. I think I might spit my food out.

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[–] bagano1 6 points 19 points (+25|-6) ago  (edited ago)

The entire sex offender list is a fucking modern day Scarlet Letter. It's time to reform all of the sex laws in this country to be much more sensible. There are a ton of guys out there who did something stupid like touch a girl's butt in high school, only to end up as a sex offender for life. Like, what the hell? The female teachers and other women that have sex with teenage boys should not go to jail. That is D-U-M-B. There was no crime committed. It's even more ludicrous when the families go and SUE the school and get a nice settlement too. What the fuck is up with that shit?

Like a friend of mine said, if you think someone needs to be on a registry, they shouldn't be out of prison to begin with. This shit is just ridiculous. The whole thing has been abused and massively out of control. Americans need to have some guts and demand the laws be changed.

Prostitution also needs to be legal. A lot of these issues that these crazy mass murderers are having could probably be resolved if they had some sort of outlet.

In regards to criminal records, very often, it leads to someone being unable to find a job. This needs to be cracked down on. Many employers see one little thing in a person's record and refuse to hire them. It's just ridiculous, and from years ago too.

There are a lot of laws that this Puritan/Socialist Fuckhole called America could change to adapt to the 21st century. A lot of it is just downright ridiculous. Why isn't the age required to buy alcohol dropped down to 18 too? Even 17? Cut the crap already.

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[–] sgx191316 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

The female teachers and other women that have sex with teenage boys should not go to jail. That is D-U-M-B

And would you extend that to male teachers too, or do you think only teenage boys are capable of consent?

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[–] USonic 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I would. While it is true that the relation might not be healthy, there are relationships between employees and bosses that work on the same principles. I'm not an expert, but I don't believe in zero tolerance and arbitrary limits.

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[–] pwn 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

Holy fuck, is prostitution seriously illegal in America?

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[–] WildThingSammiT 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Everywhere except Nevada.

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[–] AustNerevar 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The female teachers and other women that have sex with teenage boys should not go to jail. That is D-U-M-B. There was no crime committed.

Wait, what the fuck? Do you really think that female teachers should somehow get a pass??

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[–] insert_name 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Alcohol is great.

Source: Lives in UK, is a shit'ole apart from 18yo drinking age W00P L4D!

But more seriously I agree with 99% of what you say. The thing about prostitution could be more well defined, but hey, it's voat. For example, just saying "prostitution should be legal" is alright, but IMHO I would add more such as "but be regulated/policed". Basically, I would say...decriminalise prostitution, which is a better definer IMO.

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[–] bagano1 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Visited the UK...definitely a shithole. I'm surprised they haven't given up on the place and made it a prison for the world's criminals. To think they banished people to Australia in the 19th century...I would have thanked Jesus for that.

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[–] Aaaron 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Never plead guilty! Especially to criminal charges like that.

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[–] slyscafe 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

She LIED about her age. But had she actually been 17 like she said, no laws were violated if the age of consent law doesn't apply when the person is within 2 years of your age. He was acting in good faith, believing that yes, she was 17.

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[–] lookingforcats 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

This is sad. The lies, the minimal age difference, the judges power to rain down inappropriate punishment and even the girl being so desperate for attention/affection. The whole mess is just too many wrongs making more wrong.

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[–] i_honestly_didnt_kno 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah, but in a lot (most?) of jurisdictions, statutory rape is a strict liability crime, which means having sex with a minor is a crime regardless of whether you honestly believed they were of age. The crime is committed in the act itself, the perpetrator's state of mind is irrelevant.

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[–] Aberdolf_Lincler 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

IIRC, the mother found out, before she found out about the lying.

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