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[–] ChadPUA 4 points 132 points (+136|-4) ago 

There is officially no difference between the two major parties that control and rule this country, whose biggest donors are the same.

Both will fuck over the middle and lower class, and neither cares about your interests.

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[–] revsta 3 points 35 points (+38|-3) ago 

There is really no difference between the Dems and Reps as it is now. This is why the two party system is so destructive and 'bi-partisanship' just ruins politics. We need to dissolve the two party system and impose term limits if we ever want our country back.

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[–] Balrogic 3 points 25 points (+28|-3) ago  (edited ago)

All candidates should be randomly elected, just like a jury duty notice. Can't be any more incompetent than the current bunch and guaranteed to not get the same corruption. A true random selection would give us a fairly representative slice of the national population, too. Inmates should be able to take office too, but if they're in for anything really dangerous they'll have to get an office inside the prison.

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[–] Germanic_Confederate 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

We need term limits and NO parties.

Let candidates stand on their own platform - I say. This is the age of the internet. The only thing we need is officials to give out a list of candidates. They can post youtube videos outlining their platform and will each receive a fixed fee to pay for travel expenses to reach debates. If they don't spend it on travel they give it to w/e charity. If they don't give it to charity then they are automatically disbarred and serve six months jail; no parole

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[–] SexySexySkeletor 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Would term limits be a good thing? Wouldn't that make politicians even more open to bribes if they knew they didn't have to worry about their long term political career? Not that it takes much to bribe them now.

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[–] oedipusaurus_rex 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

even better, we can change the way that votes are counted to the borda count method (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borda_count), and have one representative for every 30,000 people in the house of representatives, like we were supposed to. I don't care how much money someone has, purchasing that many house members is going to hurt.

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[–] philomath 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Of course there is. Republicans hate minorities and women! Democrats hate the constitution and individuals' rights! Only pay attention to these things. Doesn't that make you mad! The _________ are trying to take over everything and destroy your way of life!

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[–] corkyknightrider 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Dont forget guns and drugs!

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[–] bishopolis 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Except I'm not sure where liberty and the pursuit of happiness is specifically against the constitution. I may need help on that one ;-)

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[–] epsilona01 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No, there is a "major" difference. They vocally support different social programs. Because they mean so little to the government financially, and they're a great way to divide the people.

It also gives some veil of legitimacy to they "two party" nonsense that most people eat up. It's telling just how vehemently people react when you try to tell them about this. Just like anyone does when they try to defend something that deep down they know to be false.

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[–] Detry 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I wouldn't care to imagine what a Mitt Romney presidency would have been like over 8 years. Yes both parties serve corporate interests but there are differences. Would be nice though if we moved over to IRV method so 3rd party candidates would be viable.

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[–] Upvoats_McGoats 2 points 47 points (+49|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Vote based on official platform, past voting record and who contributes the most to their campaigns. Don't ever vote based on your gut feeling about someone or who "down to earth" they seem.

I'll be voting for Bernie Sanders for not taking Super PAC money alone. That speaks volumes.

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[–] austenite12 7 points 16 points (+23|-7) ago 

Honestly, I feel like even if the Berninator was in favor of like, 10 other things I hated , I'd still vote for him for this reason alone.

I wish the conservatives had a "PAC Free" candidate (no not trump).

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[–] TexasComments 2 points 20 points (+22|-2) ago 

I wish the conservatives had a PAC free candidate except the one they have now fuck him

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[–] Cassiekin 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Well I mean, he is PAC-Free. But then again he's Donald Trump.

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[–] digbybare 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I wish the conservatives had a "PAC Free" candidate (no not trump).

Trump is probably the most liberal republican, plus he's actually got some solid principles. He's got some opinions that'll rub you the wrong way, but he's also got some that are strongly anti-republican (mostly welfare related issues). I mean, I don't agree with most of his positions, but at least he's got the integrity to stand by what he believes.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/07/25/3684164/case-for-donald-trump/

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[–] pepepepepe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Honestly, I feel like even if the Berninator was in favor of like, 10 other things I hated , I'd still vote for him for this reason alone.

This is exactly the camp I'm in. Far too socialist for my liking but at this point I'll vote for nearly anyone trying to reform campaign finance.

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[–] doctor_cucumber 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Trump doesn't take money either.

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[–] Zodi 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

Yes he does, he just did it before you were paying attention.

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[–] JesusHitler 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

He's not taking super PAC money because...he would never get the offer anyway. That's like me saying "I refuse to bang Emma Watson".

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[–] GarrioValere 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm voting for Trump. I don't like any of the candidates platforms so I might as well get some entertainment.

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[–] helmetbox 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

Donors who will combine to make this the most corrupt election ever (judging by the amount of money spent). We need to get money out of politics! These establishment candidates will not do that.

Bernie Sanders!!! Also http://Wolf-Pac.com !

"Yes, We’re Corrupt”: A List of Politicians Admitting That Money Controls Politics

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[–] cynoclast 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Money in politics is a symptom of wealth inequality, if you think laws are going to prevent it, you're naive. That said, I support the Wolf-Pac and what they're attempting. I just don't think it will make that big a difference. We need to treat the disease that is wealth inequality and then money in politics won't be an issue.

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[–] Zidota 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

We need to do far more than that but it's a good start.

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[–] fat_pony 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This literally makes no sense. There are rich and poor people, therefore politicians are corrupt.

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[–] HST 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

While I love the goal of Wolf-PAC, I don't trust TYT with my money.

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[–] JesusHitler 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

'Beanie' has as much chance of winning as I do.

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[–] TahTahBur 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Pepsi or Coke elections: they're still both sodas at the end of the day.

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[–] TahTahBur 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Sorry about your luck, the tea you are voting for is a child company to coke... But don't drink the water it's poisoned!

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[–] l-emmerdeur 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

"In a press release from the Department of Difference in Candidates for the Office of President of the United States, they have declared that, officially, Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are identical."

This is a joke on funny usage of officially in this context.

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[–] pequenopete 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

So Goldman's basically hoping that they can set up the conditions for the next financial crisis and rape the tax payers again a decade or two down the line.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Just ask Greece

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[–] rhava 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

you wont even have to wait that long just 5 years

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[–] snowhonkey 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I feel like politics is like watching WWF/WWE; they put on a good show but it's for entertainment only and there's a man behind the curtain coming up with the plot and taking all the money...

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[–] Man_Among_Gods 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Replace "man" with "sponsors" and I think it would be more accurate. But how can you explain politics to a public where some still think professional "wrestling" is real?

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[–] snowhonkey 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I wish I knew...

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[–] astroskag 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

If either Bush or Clinton are elected, by 2020, the same two families will have been in the White House for 26 of the previous 34 years. We've missed the boat on not turning into an oligarchy, but apparently we're not going to stop until we reinstate a monarchy.

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[–] fat_pony 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm hoping for Trump vs Sanders. Shake things up a bit.

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