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[–] datjedi 0 points 40 points (+40|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is bigger than most realize. I wonder if this will affect Utah at all. Farms are brutal and horrible out there. Ag gag for a reason. Some activists recently got in deep shit, pun intended, for filming a cattle slaughter in draper Utah and posting the footy online Here's a little more about those people and Ag Gag laws. Fuck you Herbert. http://upr.org/post/group-protests-ag-gag-bill-outside-draper-slaughterhouse

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[–] syn0byte 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

You know I wonder. Ok Ag Gag laws say I can't record it, but what if we get a good Disney style animator and Morgan Freeman sounding voice actor to depict it as true and brutal as it really is?

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[–] voat-simulator 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I think more effective might be to actually record it and just don't put your name on it. A good video doesn't need a credible name behind it.

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[–] xcats 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago 

Good. Allowing factory farms to get away with illegal things by making it illegal to prove they're doing illegal things is horse shit. Glad someone in the justice department isn't bought and paid for.

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[–] Shagoosty 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

While I agree, I think maybe there should be better ways to catch them, instead of people secretly filming. Maybe we should have actual surprise inspections in place.

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[–] voat-simulator 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I do believe they managed to make those illegal, too.

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[–] hippiedip 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

This is what happens when we deregulated the USDA. They used to be able to do suprise inspection, but now they have to inform said factory of their vist. Giving them time to cook books, and put a wonderful shine on things.

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[–] rabel 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There's nothing to catch - animals in factory farms are not protected by animal cruelty laws so inspections will not change anything as far as animal cruelty is concerned.

The only way to change these practices is by people secretly filming what goes on and attempting to influence the public to put pressure on farms to voluntarily change their ways or to influence legislators to enact laws to provide for humane treatment of animals.

Good luck with that though, because farms aren't going to reduce their profits without a fight, most likely through propaganda ("look how happy our cows are at Sunnyhappyacres farms"). If any one state enacts animal cruelty laws the factory farms will simply shut down and move to another state that does not have such laws.

So really these undercover videos are the only thing people have to attack cruel practices at farms. And one video won't do it. People need to see this stuff over and over and over until consumers finally revolt against factory farms and start purchasing their meats from humane farms or from their local farmer's market where you can usually find humane farmers nearby.

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[–] rabel 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Animals slaughtered for food are not protected by animal cruelty laws. That's why we can have veal from calves raised in extremely confined spaces, extreme restrictions on movement of pigs, male chicks tossed into grinders alive (because they don't produce eggs), ducks force fed, etc.

So, inspections don't reveal any "illegal things" because treating the animals cruelly is not against the law.

The only way to stop these practices are these undercover videos to appeal to people's sense of decency to put pressure on farms to voluntarily change their practices or to pressure legislators to enact animal protection laws.

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

It's scary that the laws got passed in the first place

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[–] Echo_of_Savages 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

But is it really surprising though? Our politicians clearly only work for corporations

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not surprising. But still unfortunate

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[–] Agedwithaview 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Score one for the good guys....

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[–] NotAnUndercoverCop 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Bad guys: 4,348,192,453

Good guys: 1

Yay! :(

/s

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[–] lookingforcats 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

This gives me hope that the truth and freedom of speech are valued by some people of power. Factory farms footage changed the way I eat, what I buy, whose wealth I add to. And as a surprise bonus, my health vastly improved.

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[–] Obstinate 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Nothing like farming your own food. Even if you're not vegetarian the work to raise an animal makes you rethink eating meat every meal.

Now if the FDA just stopped subsidizing grain for fodder.

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[–] 12311986 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I live in an apartment and just a small patio garden was eye opening

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[–] 12311986 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I am in the same boat. I now mostly eat vegetarian, though I pounce on game meat at any chance. My goal is to hunt all the meat I consume.

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[–] mcseanerson 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I wish grass fed beef would take off more to help reduce the cost.

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[–] rabel 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

There are humane farms in pretty much every state where one can purchase meats that are produced from animals that are raised humanely and are slaughtered painlessly. One organization that certifies these types of farms (but is not the only such list) is Certified Humane.

You can usually find these types of farms at your local farmer's market as well.

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[–] lookingforcats 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Excellent quote.

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[–] Zquareman 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I was waiting for this. Good. Fuck state legislators, fucking corrupt assholes,the whole premise of this ban was bullshit.

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[–] 654456 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Good. There is no reason that it cant be humane.

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[–] rabel 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well there is one HUGE reason why not and that is profit. Humane farms are much more expensive to operate and cannot produce anywhere near the amount of product that factory farms do.

I agree that profit is not a very good reason but people who are running these huge factory farms don't agree.

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