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[–] Zaqwert 2 points 193 points (+195|-2) ago 

The truth is, police have been abusing their authority for decades in America. The only difference is over the past 5-10 years now every citizen is carrying around a HD camera on them at all times. As such, all the rampant police abuse is now provable, whereas before they'd just lie their way out of everything.

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[–] AnTi90d 0 points 61 points (+61|-0) ago 

I wholeheartedly agree. If you talk to them, they argue that this is a sensational media frenzy brought on by corrupt leftists and they'll say, "I don't know a single corrupt officer."

I've been around a long time and I've seen plenty of this. Hell, one of my friends was stabbed while leaving a bar.. he managed to get an adrenaline rush and beat the shit out of the other guy.. and he is the one that got arrested.. with a foot long gash carved into his gut.. and the cops said that the other guy was defending himself.. despite several witnesses to the contrary.

The world isn't benefiting from big brother, but rather, a multitude of little brothers (citizens armed with their own cameras.)

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[–] KinkRaven 0 points 35 points (+35|-0) ago 

Little Brother is Watching Out For You!

I like that...

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[–] CommonSense 5 points 36 points (+41|-5) ago  (edited ago)

I think it's far worse than that. Governments rule by using a strategy called "divide and conquer." Crime has been on the decline over the last 2 decades. People were getting a long better. Shit man, white people elected a black president (of course, that turned out to be a huge mistake -- not because he's black, but because he's Obama).

Suddenly (and i mean in the last 4-5 years), we have been seeing all the divide strategies come back. Women are getting raped, white people hate black people, cops are acting like violent stereotypes. Rich vs Poor.

All of these things aren't happening at the same time for no reason. and it's not because we spontaneously all started to hate each other. Government has to justify its own existence by demonstrating what it would be like without them. Ironically, without them, it wouldn't be anything like this.

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[–] notthepope 6 points 14 points (+20|-6) ago 

independent here...explain how mccain or romney would have been a better choice. and why obama was a "huge mistake." Its really irritating to see empty fox news headline comments tacked into discussions.

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[–] mrmcsixaplix 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I think had McCain elected, we would absolutely be engaged in another major military conflict in the mid-east, probably with Iran. Romney? 50-50.

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[–] whatthehelldamnguy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Actually, for the record, we are at a 45 year low on crime. Going on five decades, not two.

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[–] Confusion 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That doesn't make sense because people blame all these problems on the government... if anything, while there would be advantages, the disadvantages would be huge too. This "dividing" also divides the government too. If they wanted people suppressed, why did they make everyone angry and aggressive, especially against the government?

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[–] whatthehelldamnguy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think it is both. I think they are getting worse also. I mean, people act like it is more dangerous now than it has ever been before, except literally the opposite is true. It is safer now than when any of us were kids, unless you are 60+. And then it is equal.

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[–] Ancient_Unknown 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's almost as if the majority of people who want to become cops are psychopaths who were bullied in grade school and now want some revenge.

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[–] AnTi90d 4 points 101 points (+105|-4) ago 

Every pig needs a camera bolted to his chest.

If the feed is ever manually shut off, that should equal an immediate suspension.

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[–] rothx 1 points 83 points (+84|-1) ago  (edited ago)

built into the badge. therefore, no badge visible, not a cop. Free to defend yourself against a civilian. no badge and announces they are a cop, penalize their retirement funds with a hefty fine.

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[–] selpai 2 points 25 points (+27|-2) ago  (edited ago)

You've got a problem already. A badge is not sufficient to identify oneself as a police officer. Nor is a particularly painted car with flashing lights, or an official looking uniform. There is special photographic ID that all officers must have on their person. If they do not provide this to you, then they have not confirmed that they are legitimate police. If they refuse to provide this, you should immediately call 911 and report that there is a strange man with a gun impersonating a police officer, and that you are afraid.

Your very first words, in any interaction with someone claiming to be police, should be "Give me your name, photo ID, and tell me the nature of your business". You are not required to provide police with any form of identification unless they have probable cause to detain you. Police are the enemy. Never give them ground.

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[–] Klaxon 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That is the best idea I have heard on the subject. You want to wear a badge? Well now it has a camera built into it. Enact this legislation immediately!

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[–] sactostar 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I whole heartedly agree with you.

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[–] naturallymystic 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

How about if the feed is manually turned off an automatic termination.

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[–] Unstablepenguin 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

dare I say, WITHOUT pay?

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[–] thuvia_1 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

they should lose their qualified immunity if they disable or remove the camera in any way. and if one claims it malfunctioned, the camera should be sent to an independent third party for forensic review.

qualified immunity is a problem, and it should not exist at all for police officers on the job. simply, it removes the ability for a person to sue a police officer (or other government official) individually for violating his/her civil rights, rather than just suing the county or town or whatever body employs the cop. when an individual or some other interested party can personally sue an officer into poverty, we'll be better off and maybe the cops will be better behaved.

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[–] Balrogic 0 points 78 points (+78|-0) ago 

Out of his jurisdiction, he had no authority to do any of that.

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[–] gnarvin 1 points 35 points (+36|-1) ago 

That was my first thought too. I wish the kid would of said something about that, though he probably would be arrested for asking questions he is allow to ask.

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[–] LostUnderTheMountain 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

the guy filming was one question away from getting tasered. fucking scary.

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[–] forgetmyname 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

It is his jurisdiction, with statements to the cameraman like "do you want to spend the night in the can? shut your fucking mouth "

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[–] cwt 1 points 57 points (+58|-1) ago 

I tried to find more info about this incident, and it's sickening how much the media defends the cop.

http://www.kwch.com/news/local-news/harper-co-sheriffs-dept-responds-to-controversial-video/34479092

The Harper County sheriff says the video shows only a small portion of the overall situation. He says the man shooting the video wasn't even involved, and kept taunting the deputy.

Williams asked the man to leave, but the individual kept causing more trouble.

Politely asking a police officer a question is "causing trouble."

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[–] Beers 2 points 53 points (+55|-2) ago 

Also, it's weird how the media groups that did cover it focused entirely on "rude language" instead of the fact that this cop just threatened to arrest the guy over nothing.

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[–] rhava 1 points 22 points (+23|-1) ago 

right complete misuse of authority and they start talking about language as if any of that was ok. corporate media is the devil. its a joke and needs to be viewed as such

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[–] quagmire 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Yes! Thank you, I came here to say that. Language is something people can just find rude but threatening to arrest someone (which I feel should be the same as unlawful dentition or even kidnapping and perjury for what ever the cop would later claim to be the reason) is a far greater problem. Just by them saying the language is the problem just shows how completely diluted this Sheriff or Police Chief is. Time to check into all of his 'arrests' and see just how many innocent people have been violated and this needs to be evidence in the future for any arrests he may make. I doubt anyone thinks this is the first time he has done something like this.

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[–] Draco 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

William's boss or a PR person for his station made a facebook post about the issue and never accepted any fault.

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[–] TimberWolfAlpha 1 points 31 points (+32|-1) ago 

Losing Faith would imply I had any left. It's gone man, gone.

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[–] Typo 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

So he couldn't detain the girl because it wasn't in his jurisdiction but he could arrest the man? Did I miss something?

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[–] JesTheRed 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

he could arrest the man?

No, but he could threaten and intimidate him. There's no jurisdictional boundary for that.

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[–] grog_monster 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

missed a few brain cells maybe

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[–] PaperEngines 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

So he didn't apologize to the victim?

ACAB

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[–] MrHarryReems 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I love how the Sheriff was encouraging folks not to post up their authoritarian BS on social media, but to take it to him instead so he could bury it.

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[–] conundrumbombs 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Seriously. I was wading through the comments to see if anyone else saw this in the video at the bottom of the article.

Of course he would have rather not had it shown to the public. Because he looks like a complete douchebag in the video, and was rightfully suspended. And he used to be a teacher?? Ugh.

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