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[–] acheron2012 9 points 19 points (+28|-9) ago 

I wondered why Denmark was the only place in the world where electricity costs more than Germany. Now I know.

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[–] vicarious 10 points 23 points (+33|-10) ago 

I see the extra cost as an investment for the future of my children.

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[–] TreeWithInfiniteCats 10 points 8 points (+18|-10) ago 

They'll thank when they're paying off the debt this created.

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[–] mukt 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago 

They can make their own choices when their time comes. They'd have better tech to choose from.

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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Denmark is one of the places in the world that could definitely stand to be a few degrees warmer. I say burn some fucking coal.

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[–] Danky_Kang 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

In Ontario, we generate so much electriciy we sometimes have to PAY other juristicitions to take it off our hands. All at the expense of the rate payers. How is it not free at this point?

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[–] IdSay 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

well it's worth it. we got pretty clean air, water and nature/wildlife(including meat and wheat) in general. all part of the welfare and health and ecology. birds tweeting every morning http://vocaroo.com/i/s1HGgIc4A9v7 between i think 04:00 to 09:00 (24 hour clock)

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[–] AreWeHuman 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Huh? This is good reason to make it free. We pay a shitload of taxes already.

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[–] MobieP 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Is it really that much more expensive for electricity to come from wind power than from fossil fuel? Or is it due to spillover-costs from the construction and subsidies, etc?

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[–] Gingerrific 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

The initial capital investment is quite high, yes.

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[–] knightwarrior41 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

the problem with this system is that if there's no wind then there's no way to produce power

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[–] mmabouncer 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

In the near future, whole house batteries will be on the market, which will be charged up and capable of supplying the entire home during down times in electricity production. It's all part of a smart grid program.

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[–] knightwarrior41 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

oh if you put it like that then it makes sense

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[–] Avnomke 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They're already available. You have to charge them yourself, but they're out there.

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[–] pao_is_a_tranny 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

That's why they install the windmills in adequate places.

Like my hometown, there is not such a thing as "no wind".

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[–] Sameblamegame 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The only danger is if over time air flow in our atmosphere changes suddenly, or even over time, enough that the infrastructure might be in the wrong place. Though if there was a world wide grid and infrastructure then It doesn't matter at all and every continent would be able to pick up the slack if the ititial wind energy hotspots change.

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[–] knightwarrior41 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

there are times in the place i live where there is no wind due strong high pressure centers being near or overhead of me

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[–] insert_name 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago  (edited ago)

The sad thing is that a few people will actually take this seriously and think that wind farms are a good idea.

I mean versus solar, wind power is far less efficient and reliable.

Solar = EM radiation -> electricity

Wind = EM radiation -> heats up atmospheric air -> thermal gradients -> wind -> spinning inductor -> electric

If you consult sources, such as this, you'll find that wind and solar have similar price-per-watt's, but the cost of maintaining an offshore wind farm is astronomically larger than that of a solar farm. And also, wind farms are more likely to break due to having more moving parts.

There is a reason many governments are pulling out of wind farms, and it's because there are far better options, including solar, and possibly fusion in the future.

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[–] TheBrokenWorld 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Wind and solar work great together.

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[–] WeekendBaker 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

And boom. While the Maghreb is an ideal location, or chad or Sudan, it is too politically unstable. The gas plant attacks in both Algeria & Nigeria ahow you need to be able to replace things. No one wants to put that kind of investment in and risk destruction or nationalization.

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[–] MobieP 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

I really love that Denmark has been spearheading this wind power thing; they have more opportunities than most countries for it, so it's good to see that they're modeling for other countries.

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[–] Dalroc 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

On an unusually windy day, Denmark found itself producing 116% of its national electricity needs from wind turbines yesterday evening. By 3am on Friday, when electricity demand dropped, that figure had risen to 140%.

Yeah... It's not a feat of technology, it's a fluke.

The reality is different

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

“It shows that a world powered 100% by renewable energy is no fantasy,” said Oliver Joy...

No it doesn't. It shows when there are unusually strong winds, they can be used to produce a lot of electricity. Whether it is feasible to rely only on them is more than just a stretch.

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[–] Frogolocalypse 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

And 2.5 times the population. So there is that.

And 3.5 times the GDP. So there is that too.

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[–] JManSenior918 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

One of the problems though is that many of the "adequate places" for wind energy, where the wind blows constantly, are so far away from the large metropolitan areas that so much of the energy produced would be used just in transporting that energy to where it is needed. Just because you string up some wires doesn't mean the energy flows freely. The curently used systems (in the U.S.) which were designed specifically to avoid loss of energy, still lose 5% in transport. That number is going to be even less appealing when the energy source is not in an optimized location.

Wind energy is an interesting topic and holds much potential, but you must remember that just because something works in one area doesn't mean it's a universally perfect fit.

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