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[–] cwt 4 points 130 points (+134|-4) ago 

So how much longer until fat-shaming is as socially acceptable as smoker-shaming is?

50 years?

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[–] EndDrugAndOtherWars 3 points 54 points (+57|-3) ago  (edited ago)

They should all shame Hillary for speaking about the climate then getting on her private jet that burns 347 gallons an hour! Nah, you'll prolly vote for her when all is said an done...but you're right, fuck ME for using my efficient mid nineties asian sedan...not the people who support shitting out a new car model every year (at massive energy costs). Never mind all the patent trolls and monied interests suppressing development of viable alternatives. Do you really think people should be shamed for using the only fuel source available for travelling longer than a few hundred miles? That makes us bad? Feel free to take the lead and live your life like it's 1793.

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[–] jeegte12 2 points 17 points (+19|-2) ago 

what do you have against people who drive cars? what about people who have to drive cars?

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[–] PoopToaster 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You're wise.

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[–] Browngaijin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Dennis Leary is waaaay ahead of you. On the smoker shaming fat people bit at least.

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[–] DyingBloodbirds 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

I look forward to seeing those truth campaigns telling kids not to date fat people like they do with smokers.

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[–] Old_Shitlord 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

This one is easy, because obesity is contagious. So don't hang out with fat people, unless you too wish to be repulsive and have no sex life as a result. It's an easy sell.

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[–] johnlocke90 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Fortunately, people are naturally disgusted by obesity so its not a hard sell.

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[–] PoopToaster 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Doesn't matter, fuck fatties

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[–] 123_456 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

So how much longer until fat-shaming is as socially acceptable as smoker-shaming is?

50 years?

As we progress through society all forms of shaming will become socially unacceptable. Soon murderers will say, "Stop murder-shaming me!"

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[–] Spectra 6 points 80 points (+86|-6) ago 

I thought that website looked like crap so I wiki'd it and:

"Joseph M. Mercola (born 1954) is an alternative medicine proponent, osteopathic physician, and web entrepreneur, who markets a variety of controversial dietary supplements and medical devices through his website, mercola.com"

and wiki'd cancer causes:

"Tobacco use is the cause of about 22% of cancer deaths. Another 10% is due to obesity, a poor diet, lack of physical activity, and consumption of alcohol."

bad source forsure

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[–] give-it-a-try 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago 

It's funny how you get downoated for calling out someone's hypocrisy and saying we need credible sources.

This is exactly what I say to each claim which "validates" stupid people's behavior. Proof? Source? Journal publication?

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[–] hunterwolf 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Gotta jerk that circle though. Might be easier to upvoat whore when the majority of your userbase is from one community.

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[–] brontide 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I came to say the same thing. Mercola is a quack and his website should be suspect. Here is a more reputable article from 2013 which shows obesity as coming close to smoking in terms of preventable dealths.

Obesity approaching cigarette smoking as leading avoidable cause of premature deaths worldwide

A new study finds that there has been a systematic underestimation during the last several decades of the hazards of obesity and its contribution to avoidable and premature deaths from cardiovascular disease, cancer and other causes.

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[–] Spectra 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Woah, even reputable credentials too?! :D You're a gentleman and a scholar.

"Dr. Charles H. Hennekens, M.D., Dr.P.H., the first Sir Richard Doll Professor and senior academic advisor to the dean in the Charles E. Schmidt College of Medicine at Florida Atlantic University"

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[–] Bathroom_Humor 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

People should try to ( ゚∀゚)アconsider the source more often. Science journalism is just as prone to clickbait as any other kind.

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[–] Spectra 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Oh, no doubt. It's just harder to detect unless you're an expert or want to research the topic at hand.

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[–] ShimmyShimmy 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Long and boring cdc source. Science motherfuckers! (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6304a2.htm).

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[–] uberdoober 7 points 33 points (+40|-7) ago 

Damn that fat shaming cancer! It must not understand that fatties have condishuns and they just can't help being spherically shaped lard mountains.

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[–] EpicNoob 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

There already are extra costs associated with being overweight. Increased food costs, increased fuel costs from less walking, some airliners make them buy two seats, etc.

What we need are shit ton of warning labels like cigarettes have. Maybe tax breaks for those who don't own vehicles, tax brakes for bikes, free mass transit, etc

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[–] gingersnapped 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

For a second there I thought you were suggesting imposing a tax on bicycle brakes, and thought that was pretty counter-intuitive.

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[–] heliumday 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I remember reading somewhere premiums can't be raised due to weight. It's supposedly protected. I'm on mobile, so I can't be bothered to check it out. (US)

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[–] rlaptop7 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

"It seems the law is trending toward obesity as a disability. In February 2012 a Federal Judge held that severe obesity may be considered a disability. In EEOC v. Resources for Human Development, Inc., No. 10-3322 (E.D.La. Dec. 7, 2011), the employee weighed over 500 pounds at the time of her termination. The ADA does not specifically address obesity. The Court relied on EEOC’s ADA Compliance Manual which states: “being overweight, in and of itself, is not generally an impairment…On the other hand, severe obesity, which has been defined as body weight more than 100% over the norm, is clearly an impairment.” More importantly, the individual does not have to prove his or her obesity was caused by an underlying health condition. Here is an article on the topic:"

From here: http://ohio-employmentlawyer.com/2012/07/can-weight-or-obesity-be-a-protected-class-sometimes-under-the-ada/

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[–] johnlocke90 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You are correct. Premiums can only be raised due to smoking and age.

Interestingly though, medical sharing plans are exempt from this. They have other problems, but as far as premiums go they are a much better deal.

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[–] whynotanon1 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In Japan and Korea large companies do group health evaluations. It effecta insurance rates and you get docked penalties if overweight. Meanwhile in the US your company gets a lawsuit because the elevator can't accomdate the 500lb person on their mobility scooter.

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[–] pandabill [S] 12 points 26 points (+38|-12) ago 

Bad news for fat lards

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[–] DerpyDoom 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

You say this like it's a bad thing. Those of them who want to stay fat, have heart issues at 19, and die at 25, because they couldn't put the god damn food down and run a mile... why the fuck should we care about them? If they want help, then by all means, but the fat logic / reinforcement / dictatorial mentality is here, and the only way to solve it, is have a mass culling of these hambeasts by natural selection until they pull their heads out of their mold-growing asses, that they unequivocally CANNOT be fat and healthy.

tl;dr let them eat cake. Supply and demand, it will bring down the cost of food for the humans.

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[–] PeaceOfMind 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I might completely agree with you were it not for that society foots the bill for their gluttony. I used to work in a hospital, and it infuriated me to see so many resources disproportionally spent on bariatric patients, from equipment to nurses to doctors, they always required more, and were rude about it to boot. I could adopt the "let 'em kill themselves if they want" attitude, if they also did it solely at their own expense.

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[–] EpicNoob 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Soilent green?

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[–] DerpyDoom 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Soylent Green is my kind of people!

But seriously, and think of me how you will for this, It solves hunger issues, AND it solves overpopulation issues. Win Win.

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[–] Tacky 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Just remember, heart disease number 1 cause of death in U.S. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm Smoking and 'beetus juice kills 'em off pretty fast, just not fast enough.

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[–] jaceame 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Is there any possibility that obesity or smoking is related to heart disease?

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[–] EpicNoob 4 points -3 points (+1|-4) ago 

Smoking can cause gum disease, which can then cause heart disease.

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[–] klongtoey 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Fat-acceptance is one of the strangest things - a bizarre attempt to make eating-disorders and substance-abuse acceptable, despite the obvious dangers, and absolutely disgusting physical results.

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