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[–] brainbaobao 0 points 80 points (+80|-0) ago 

Breitbart has been the only one giving GG any reasonable coverage, which is pretty sad since it shows how partisan the media has become.

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[–] Lullabyt 0 points 39 points (+39|-0) ago 

I second this. Say what you want about Breitbart, but they go for the throat on a lot of issues that other websites tip toe around.

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[–] rwbj 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They've also been one of the few sites actually openly talking about what the TPP is. It seems increasingly apparent that large swaths of the mainstream media is partaking in yet another JournoList as they tend to do little more than parrot each other on the vast majority of topics. Breitbart, though I am at odds with their politics, seems to be one of the few truly independent major news outlets in that their articles are written of their own accord and not as part of a group think process.

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[–] RabidRaccoon 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

True, but do you really think Breitbart is any more ethical than Gawker deep down?

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[–] WitnesstheSalt 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I keep thinking Fox news might take the opportunity to muck in. Classic enemy-of-my-enemy and all that. I remember the Fox target audience is the hip-snapping crowd. Maybe in a decade.

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[–] Calvin 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

One's the obnoxious SJW fat girl convinced she could have any man, she just doesn't need them. The other is the obese, hairy, annoying, Redpill loud mouth convinced he could have any woman if they weren't so privileged and could just see the true him.

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[–] raging_paranoia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Your analogy and pictures were perfect!

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[–] Kiwibomb 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I like the drunk fight analogy. Personally, I hope Gawker finds itself face down in a puddle of its own filth, only to roll over and asphyxiate on their own vomit. TWICE.

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[–] ImSureImPerfect 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Sadly not. It's more than Vox. We must fight Vice, the Verge, Rock Paper Shotgun, and every other publication that spreads false, borderline libelous information about those who dissent from their narratives.

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[–] ruyaz 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I actually kind of like Vice, aren't they the group that had people on the ground during the Ukraine and Russia conflict? Some of their reporting is excellent, but like most journalistic sites, some of it is just trash.

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[–] chakan2 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

Hogan is about to freedom stomp Gawker off the internets. Their time is nigh.

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[–] Magitek_X 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

First time in a long time where I want someone to job to Hogan.

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[–] realpatrickstewart 3 points 19 points (+22|-3) ago  (edited ago)

How #GamerGate Shattered Gawker's Myth of Invincibility

Surely, you mean Hulk Hogan...?

GamerGate is still completely censored everywhere from CNN, to Wikipedia, to fucking John Oliver and Colbert.

The only thing this article mentions we did was an organized e-mail campeign against Gawker's advertisers, which hurt them... but only partly. They said like ~$3 million--which is a lot but not the end of the world.

Gawker has been the biggest damage to Gawker. People were starting to feel on the fence about them but their outing of the gay CFO completely destroyed any kind of defense in people's minds. They outed themselves as pure smut for nothing more than $$$. They jumped from "aggressive, maverick investigative reporting" in people's heads to "clear paparazzi scum."

Perhaps, I missed something. I'm absolutely open to someone correcting me, and I fully support ethics in journalism. I just don't feel like we were the ones that magically changed Gawker when compared to Hulk Hogan's lawsuit and the CFO shitstorm--where 99% of media outlets immediately distanced themselves from Gawker.

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[–] DoktorAvalanche 8 points 25 points (+33|-8) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah, gamergate isn't being censored, gamergate is being ignored because it is believed that gamergate consists of nothing but petulant whiners.

Edit : and if these silly downvoats are any indication, they might be on to something. After all, It's not like I've actually implied any sort of agreement with that mindset. And yet..... Oh well, at least this site isn't like that other site where people downvoat to disagree, right.....right?

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[–] DoctorShitlord_MD 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'm not a gamer can someone explain what this is all about, or point me to a reputable source for the story?

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[–] ImSureImPerfect 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think this is a good place to start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy9bisUIP3w

And watch if you want a really quick answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcWm4B3EU4

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[–] johnlocke90 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Other people posted some good sources. For a basic overview:

Background- game journalism has widely been considered bad for a long time due to the cozy relationship between journalists and game publishers, but gamers more or less put up with it. Additionally, in the last few years outraged culture has taken over at many game sites, with lots of(often misleading) articles about how horrible game devs and gamers are towards women, minorities, etc.

Events: Small time game developer Zoe Quinn put out a game(generally considered not very good). Her ex-boyfriend posted that she had slept with one of the game journalists who had given her a good review. Small time story, but notable enough to make the rounds on sites like Reddit. Normally, it would end here. However, these sites deleted all posts on the topic. As always, people started making "Why was this deleted" posts and doing more digging. This led to more unethical connections in the industry(some related to Zoe, many just general bad ethics) and more posts, which were also deleted.

At this point, things get a little fuzzy as the trolls and ragers get involved, but basically, it started a movement of people upset with the outrage culture and bad ethics in game journalism. It got too big to just ignore, so game journalists responded by saying the movement is composed of misogynistic immature losers, and eventually that "gamers" as a group are a "dead" demographic. That pissed a bunch of gamers(the core audience of these sites) off, who were generally unhappy with being told they were hateful losers.

It has had a bunch of ongoing stuff, with some successes in cutting funding to Gawker and supporting more ethical, gamer focused media. /r/kotakuinaction was formed form this, and is still a big subreddit.

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[–] smeezekitty 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

How is Wikipedia being censored?

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[–] ImSureImPerfect 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Any evidence that Gamergate isn't a vile hive of misogyny is removed.

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[–] derram [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Wikipediocracy and their forums are a fun read.

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[–] wunami 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Seems a bit much to be comparing Gawker to the Roman and British empires.

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[–] Cleverseneca 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It does, but I appreciated the fact he passed up the overused examples in history to go for the better ones.

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[–] hypercat 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I still don't understand gamergate. I have requested an ELI5 and it made no sense. I have read the wiki page. I still have no idea what happened and why aside from women in the industry getting harassed.

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[–] Dalroc 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

Journalists sleeping around with people they write about and when the readers reacts on that, the response is "lol gamers are dead" and "omg gamers are misogynists".

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[–] derram [S] 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

The harassment thing is a deflection on the media's part. I mean, one of the women who they're supposed to have harassed has been caught harassing herself but no one mentions that.

This is old, but it's quick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcWm4B3EU4

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[–] HorseSizedDuck 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

To really condense it down: Basically, an independent game developer named Zoe Quinn got a bunch of positive coverage of a game that she made. However, it was later discovered that she had some very personal relationships with several people in the industry. A lot of people got upset over the discovery that the big-name gaming sites were probably rife with nepotism. A lot of other people thought that the first group just didn’t like Zoe because she was a girl.

It has since turned into a huge fiasco, with one side seeing it as girls vs. boys, and the other side seeing it as an issue of journalistic integrity.

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[–] hypercat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Okay, that makes more sense. Surprise that there is nepotism in the industry? no, that is what all industries are. Little Johnnie's dad got him a VP position right out of school because he's a hard worker, even if he failed econ twice. I worked for a large internet company and they very strongly regretted hiring on one of the part timers top full time because she was a moron (seriously, I could go on for days) but somehow she was vetted by a manager who she just happened to sleep with, that and crawling on the table like a hooker because she couldn't reach a plug helps.

I think that we should assume that someone is getting positive reviews because they know someone enough to even get the review in the first place. Like yelp businesses getting all their family and friends to give them positive reviews to boost their ratings.

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[–] milliamp 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

John Ronson whos book they mention also gave a TED talk that is decent: How One Tweet Can Ruin Your Life

I recommend it.

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[–] the_gamer_rises 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

everyone within gamergate knows exactly what breitbart is, but they are literally the only news outlet to give gamergate actual coverage.

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