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[–] starrychloe 0 points 28 points (+28|-0) ago 

It's a divide and conquer strategy, and that's why the media promote it.

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[–] senpaithatignoresyou 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yeah,

causing problems in a convention filled with lawyers is not going to go down well. Especially if there are a lot of rich people there.

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[–] kevinstonge 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm thinking we might be reaching a point where understanding this concept should be a requirement to graduate high school.

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[–] Sosacms 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Highschool? Wasn't most of these issues covered in kindergarten? Don't hit, don't shout, wait your turn, clean up the messes you make, be polite and work together. And for you savages that mix up the carts at the grocery store, the glue goes in the glue box and the crayons go in the crayon box. Don't just go around cluster-fucking everything with your mish-mashing, that's how the communist win.

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[–] Sosacms 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

This was my thought why watching that other group disrupting the Sanders event. If there is anyone why would have loved to answer their questions, it was Sanders but he couldn't get a single word in before getting silenced with random shouting. Just take a seat and join the discussion, you'll make far more progress that way.

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[–] Ripper 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah turning RNC or any political event into a Showtime at the Apollo is there goal. Nice.

I'll say it. Fuck these people! Nothing more than the criminals playing the part of the victims!

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[–] alizure 1 points 46 points (+47|-1) ago 

ALL lives matter, not just black lives. That is so stupid.

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[–] Nationalist 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

Didn't some democratic candidate say that and he ended up getting booed out of the convention, then apologizing for it?

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[–] Thorium 7 points 6 points (+13|-7) ago 

Here's a decent explanation of why responding to 'black lives matter' with 'all lives matter' is seen as controversial. (Credit goes to /u/GeekAesthete on that other site.)

Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

The problem is that the statement "I should get my fair share" had an implicit "too" at the end: "I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else." But your dad's response treated your statement as though you meant "only I should get my fair share", which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that "everyone should get their fair share," while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.

That's the situation of the "black lives matter" movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society.

The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn't work the way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn't want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That's not made up out of whole cloth -- there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it's generally not considered "news", while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate -- young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don't treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don't pay as much attention to certain people's deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don't treat all lives as though they matter equally.

Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase "black lives matter" also has an implicit "too" at the end: it's saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying "all lives matter" is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It's a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means "only black lives matter," when that is obviously not the case. And so saying "all lives matter" as a direct response to "black lives matter" is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.

TL;DR: The phrase "Black lives matter" carries an implicit "too" at the end; it's saying that black lives should also matter. Saying "all lives matter" is dismissing the very problems that the phrase is trying to draw attention to.

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[–] Apocolipticbeulah 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It was O'Mally here is the video where he said all lives matter and gets booed and shouted at.

http://youtu.be/YbixEGV_N6g

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[–] AzureNova 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

And yet, when a politician stated that publicly, he was booed offstage. And had to apologize for the comment, even though it was preceded by him saying that black lives matter.

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[–] Cap_Dec 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Agreed. Especially since their whole premise is based on a lie.

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[–] 052615 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Then why don't people act like it?

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[–] china_troll 0 points 31 points (+31|-0) ago 

I didn't know that republicans were governing Ferguson, Baltimore, Detroit, Oakland, Chicago ...

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[–] Rellik88 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Dems love to keep their slaves.

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[–] unatco 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Black lives matters is funded George Soros, the cause was coopted at its inception.

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[–] 1Sorry_SOB 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

God, that man likes to stir things up.

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[–] DeadlyAura 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

So.... Every Republican hates blacks and kills them for sport?

I'm sorry, but can we get real for a minute? This is NOT a Republican/Democrat debate... This is a problem we are experiencing in our country with all people of all races. We simply have one group of people that is race-baiting, and skewing the facts.

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[–] alizure 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree.

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[–] SwiftCase 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

If you want to talk about injustice, talk about Eric Garner and Walter Scott, not Mike Brown. Secondly, these people aren't going to garner any sympathy if they keep trying to shut down debates and conventions.

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[–] 1Sorry_SOB 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Why the GOP convention? Who's been president the last 7 years?

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[–] The_Desert_Fox 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The President who has the king of race-baiting (Al Sharpton) as a trusted adviser.

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[–] BroadcastEngineer 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Why don't they just say what they really feel and call themselves "Straight White Men's Lives don't Matter"?

Think of it! It would be the ultimate! They could broaden their support base tremendously to include just about every angry group out their, racial, sexual orientation, and gender based to make one huge super group! I mean, why not? It's the same agenda anyway, just skips the unnecessary misleading diversionary title.

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[–] Crashmarik 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Isn't that supergroup already here ? It's been pretty much the Democratic party platform since 2000. You could toss in "Were for equality but some are more equal than others" plank as well.

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