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[–] Bainshie 9 points 60 points (+69|-9) ago 

Apart from the study itself says nothing of the sort.

The study is in reference to abuse of prescription drugs, and the societal effect of something not being illegal "reducing" the risk of such things. This is a far fucking difference from "Big pharma killing people". What next, a study into suicide by hanging turned into "big rope" kiling people?

This post has been linked too on /v/conspiracunt, where you can all laugh at it.

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[–] Easybee 8 points 24 points (+32|-8) ago 

Unfortunately, all of voat seems to be slowly transforming into v/conspiracy. It's worrying.

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[–] Bainshie 6 points 20 points (+26|-6) ago 

I think it's because the lack of downvoating, it means that anything can get upvotes.

Still try and combat the stupidity with the rest of us at /v/conspiracunt. (The new home for the none squatted /v/conspiratard

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[–] sneakybells 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Except what are you doing? You are voat in action, it's not like we're in some echo chamber here and I think a lot of you fail to realize that most of the time.

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[–] Ergheis 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

This has been said literally every time by every site at all points of their lifetimes. Digg, Reddit, and so on. All that matters is that people downvote and provide the discussion in the comments.

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[–] TalkingAnimal 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Also, it's an idiotic argument. A very small portion of the population uses potentially dangerous illegal drugs compared to the very high portion that uses potentially dangerous prescription drugs.

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[–] Bainshie 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

However at no point do people use these studies to suggest that "big guns" are killing people. You wanna use this study to lead into a discussion about attempted restriction of prescription drugs? Sure go ahead. But that isn't being done here.

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[–] NeptuneRises 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Are you the same guys that run Conspiritard? Will you be making any verses to make fun of American activists killed by Israel like on reddit?

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[–] overmedium420 4 points 14 points (+18|-4) ago 

it doesn't help that the medical doctors are quick to write that script to treat the symptoms instead of treating the root condition of the patient's medical problem. Example: patient has back problems, doctor writes prescription for pain killer and sends patient out the door. does that solve the problem? no, just offers temporary relief to the patient.

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[–] syllovespan 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I'm seeing this with a few of my own friends, their doctors just keep writing prescriptions for a host of pain killers. No rehab, no therapy, nothing but the ongoing 90 day pain killer routine.

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[–] overmedium420 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I believe it. Another real world example: my mother and the cancer she was diagnosed with. They treated her with surgery, then chemo therapy; not once did they cover cancer-fighting nutrition or lifestyle change.

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[–] bayesianqueer 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

And that is an object lesson in getting both sides of the story. I have a number of chronic pain patients (that I see monthly not every 90 days). I am overjoyed when patients are wanting to undertake non-medicinal treatment. I have a shit ton of external referral options. I have patients who are overweight (that is negatively effecting their pain) come for visits with our RN for "TLC" (therapeutic lifestyle counseling). Hell, I'm currently losing a little extra weight because I was able to get a patient to agree to a weight loss plan if I did it with him (and I could stand to lose a couple pounds). Every visit we both hop on the scale.

However I would say that a good 75+% of people aren't interested in weight loss, physical therapy, yoga, etc. They want the pills and I am hard pressed to get the to lift a damn finger otherwise. I've even in a few cases linked refills to participation - i.e. you have to go to 2 PT appointments before your next refill - and trust me, I hate paternalistic bullshit like that.

However in our society we look poorly on people who need pain meds to get through their day, so blaming a non-present physician is an easy out. That said, suggest to your friends to do yoga or swimming. Almost any kind of non-malignant musculoskeletal gets at least some better with those.

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[–] Imapopulistnow 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Patients for life. Doctors love it.

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[–] wwwhistler 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

i suffer from diabetic homeopathy and have extreme pain in my feet. i have been offered Vicodin, Oxycontin and even Morphine by various doctors. if i had accepted even one of them i have no doubt that i would now be a drug addict. but i know how these things work. once i had become an addict i would have been abruptly cut off and wind up turning to street drugs....by by house, by by money, by by life.

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[–] johnlocke90 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The problem is that as a doctor, you have limited power to address the root problems.

For instance, if you have back problems from being a fatass, doctors can't force you to lose weight.

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[–] Shammyhealz 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's a bad example. Back problems are notoriously difficult to diagnose because our knowledge of and view into neurological problems is poor. Sometimes it's impossible to figure out what's wrong, and other times you'll spend thousands of dollars to find out what's wrong only to find out there's nothing we can do about it anyways.

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[–] bayesianqueer 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Because this post wasn't about news. This was about a specific agenda.

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[–] Otterknothings 5 points 4 points (+9|-5) ago 

Big pharma kills. But slowly so they can still increase their profit share.

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[–] Kabuthunk 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

There's also more money in treating the symptom than treating the cause, but I'm not sure if that comes into play here.

I DO honestly think they're dragging their feet on (or possibly outright hiding) cures for... things, I dunno. I doubt cancer, but some smaller shit maybe. FAR more money in people being sick than people being healthy though, and I have absolutely no doubt that Big Money would be fine taking advantage of that fact.

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[–] brother_tempus 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

To bad it is the illegal and immoral subsidies and favorable anti-competitive legislation implemented by the government that created Big Pharma in the first place

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[–] Wmb102er 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Long patent terms also help.

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[–] brother_tempus 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Yes another government-created problem

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[–] cvtele 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

That's exactly what I was going to say. US government is in bed with big Pharma.

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[–] kingkongsdingdong 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Prescription drugs overdoses = 'big pharma' killing people apparently

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[–] 08 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Poor conclusions based on bias. More people die from prescription drug abuse, than from illegal drugs......this is a more accurate statement

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[–] jeblis 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Congrats, you got my first down vote.

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