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[–] ViolentlyMasticates 0 points 40 points (+40|-0) ago 

Even clicking on an ad for a very legitimate company can result in adware/malware being poped up into your computer. Why should we trust any of them, except off trusted sites?

I think the last time I bothered discovering a shop from an ad was J-List from 4chins a few years ago, because I trusted their ads. Not anymore.

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[–] bpg131313 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I use adblocker, and have for quite some time. That said, every once in a while, static image ads will show up. In the off-chance there's something there I'm interested in, I'll google the product or company and go directly to their website rather than going there via some ad. I'm not going to click on an ad to go to a site I can search for myself.

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[–] apocsnow 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

CNet, Sourceforge.... it's like they are trying to destroy ad revenue on the internet.

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[–] JimmyJimRyan 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

There should be a industry standards organisation that defines reasonable standards for online adds. Not autoplaying sound and video for example. Something like google text ads. And that organisation should release their own plugin called reasonableBlock or something. That blocks everything that doesn't sign up to that charter.

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[–] heyitsfred 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

So AdBlock Plus with default settings? They sold out.

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[–] ninjai 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't mind having to pay to read articles

I do.

I don't have the answer, but I don't want the security vulns from ads. I don't mind having side bar ads, but again... the security vulns and extra bandwidth (in case of auto play video ads) are a no go for me.

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[–] Acer-Red 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is true. I've been using Microsoft Edge (as part of the preview) to give it a shot and I haven't seen ads in a long time (except for some sites where I allow it because they know how to do it right). And I went to one site with ads that hijacked my computer. Not anything too extreme, but it was a full screen fake BSOD with an error message loop telling me to call a number for support.

Of course the problem with Edge is that it automatically recovers your closed tabs, so when I killed the process and re-opened it, I was stuck in the same thing (no way to close the window because the fake error message would just keep looping open and no option to prevent the page from opening more error dialogs).

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[–] Lullabyt 0 points 133 points (+133|-0) ago 

I can't feel bad about this. Games journalism wants nothing to do with me as a gamer anymore. They don't represent me (the gamer) anymore. Secondly, if I don't want to be inundated with or subjected to ads, I don't have to be. Maybe they should adapt instead of bitch about it.

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[–] Spip 0 points 63 points (+63|-0) ago 

For me game journalism has been replaced by youtube's let's plays.

I never pre-order so I don't need more than a video to see if I would like the game's story/mechanics/...

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[–] Lullabyt 0 points 70 points (+70|-0) ago 

Not to mention, most of the Let's Players are much better journalists than many in games journalism. No agendas. Just games.

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[–] Antheus 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Exactly this - in the past if I was interested but unsure about a game, I would find a review in a magazine or online to get a (hopefully impartial) breakdown of whether the game was good, what problems it had etc.

Now though there's no need for that (which is good, given how much we've seen recently of how not impartial they often are) - now if I'm considering a game I will go to Youtube and see if TB's done a "WTF is..." on it, or failing that if anyone else has done a let's play/video review, or check Twitch to see if anyone is streaming it... that allows me to see someone playing the game and make my own judgements on whether it's something I want to spend time/money on.

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[–] G4 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I never could get into LPs, Classic Game Room has ruined me for other types of reviews

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[–] Lullabyt 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

It's a sad reflection on these so-called professionals that many of us trust anonymous people in forums and YTers far more than those purporting to be a pro in the field.

Well said.

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[–] chakan2 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Other medias do not appear to suffer with this conflict of interest.

I really disagree with that statement (I agree with the rest of the post). I'd argue that every form of news media these days falls into that trap. Just look at traditional news journalism today. I haven't seen an unbiased article on anything in the news in what feels like years. Black guy gets shot, CNN reports it as a hate crime, Fox News reports it as hero cop. There is no in between any more. I think it reflects on where they're getting their money from. RNC or DNC.

I think this article points out at least the game journalists are honest about their dishonesty I guess.

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[–] Tsugumori 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I've met plenty of honest games journalists. None of their publications were very successful though, mostly because they wouldn't take ad revenue.

Curious, that.

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

At this point, no one cares about them. They've lost our trust and many of them have converted themselves into some kind of SJW ad symposium for hire. Need your game rated!? We can do that for the right amount of money! More money, higher rating! Getting some bad press elsewhere!? Those people are obviously misogynists and we'll tell the whole world about it!

So boo freaking hoo game journalists. You spent years crapping on and then biting the hand that fed you and now you want help. Too bad.

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[–] mblmg 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Traditional games journalism is riddled with shills, paid reviews and corruption. If adblock is the final nail in their coffin so be it.

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[–] Futt 1 points 67 points (+68|-1) ago 

Translation: "Our doomed business model is failing, and it's all your fault!". Games "journalism" is dead; they hammered in the last nail when they started attacking gamers to curry favor with SJWs for some inexplicable reason. I get my gaming content from Steam curators, Voat and youtube/twitch, where I can get the information I need with a minimum of bias.

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[–] ffs 6 points 0 points (+6|-6) ago 

Oh come on. It's an issue all sites face, no matter the quality. Find a website you like, and whitelist them, because otherwise they won't be able to stay in business.

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[–] Futt 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

First of all, not all sites face this, some have found actually viable business models. The ubiquity of ad blockers should be a reminder to do so for those who haven't. Secondly, we're discussing online game journalism, so my comment was naturally directed at them and their "plight".

I do whitelist quality sites that I enjoy and visit frequently, provided they can be trusted not to serve large quantities of obnoxious ads and/or ads from networks that are known to embed malware.

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[–] Tsugumori 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I have a solid... Ten sites I whitelist. I'd be a lot higher of a bunch of the sites I liked didn't use sleazy ads.

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[–] jrsofty [S] 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

Just so everyone knows I'm someone who thinks people who believes that people are willing to support quality, and if you don't have the quality then you shouldn't expect support.

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[–] facepaint 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

People have been intentionally turning on ad blockers specifically because of some of those shitty gaming "journalism" websites that tend to just push out click-bait.

In the early days, Reddit made a go of talking users into turning off their ad blockers for the reddit site.

If you treat your customers well and provide something useful, you can easily convince your core base to white list your site from ad blockers. If you treat them like shit, your site might be the very reason someone installs an ad blocker.

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[–] Tsugumori 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah, I had reddit whitelisted. Had. That thing about treating your customers well.

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[–] St_Jude 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That other site food ads well too. They were unobtrusive to the experience and didn't every do some crap line auto play.

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[–] Sacrix 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

I'm someone who thinks people who believes that people are willing to support quality

You gave me a headache.

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[–] jrsofty [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Yeah that's what I get for typing a comment while listening to music. Got my thoughts all mixed up.

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[–] Tonguestun 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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[–] azimuth 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago 

I agree that ad-blocking isn't completely fair, however I am sick of having my browsing experience literally ruined with intrusive ads. I'm sorry this badly affects some well-intentioned websites, but the amount of ad-aggressive websites is just to high for me to browse without ad-blocking plugins...

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[–] RectalLeakage 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

As someone who read gaming mags in the 90's, I can safely say that the integrity was never there.

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[–] Skeletor 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I fully agree, Also no one likes the Random Video with sound that started playing on a random tab. It's a fun game of "what tab is it?"

Note: Now it's not as bad sense Chrome has the little speaker on the tab that makes sound. Still gonna keep AdBlock on.

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[–] Xycos 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Oh man, I can not stand video ads. That should flat out be punishable by internet exile!! No sympathy from me, I'm going to continue to block them out.

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[–] azimuth 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Also with Chrome, you can already enable a "beta" functionality that allows you to mute a tab just by clicking on the speaker sign: http://lifehacker.com/enable-chromes-mute-this-tab-shortcut-in-the-dev-chan-1640772471

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[–] ffs 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You don't need to browse without adblock. You can just whitelist the pages you want to support, and turn on the unobtrusive ads option.

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[–] azimuth 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You're actually right, that's something I should start doing.

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[–] jags_T 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

it has to be about balance. I can cope with ads on borders and even between paragraphs. but, block what I want to read and I am no longer interested in the service offerred!

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[–] jrsofty [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I can agree with that. Normally if they have ads that block the content or make the content hard to read, no matter how good the material is, I will continue to block. However, if they have your standard sidebar ads or a banner ad at the top or bottom then I'll unblock that site if they have good content.

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[–] ThePieAssassin 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Well, the IGN quotes are laughable. Just charge the companies like EA etc. more money for those favorable reviews and move along.

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[–] DiggRedditVoatBlank 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly. Just because a games journalism site is willing to suck corporate dick doesn't mean their already-dwindling audience wants to join in on the action.

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[–] NeptuneRises 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

"harms the industry."

the games journalism industry?

top fucking kek.

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