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[–] ownsauce 1 points 30 points (+31|-1) ago 

The entire system is holding back societal and scientific progress.

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[–] NotALawyer 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago  (edited ago)

System is not made to help progress, but to control society. To keep everyone busy studying in their most productive years of life. Studying so much stuff none of them is ever going to use, spend hundreds of thousand hours and dollars on a piece of fancy paper on a wall, and a few faint memories. Then spend the same sum of money they don't have to buy a house they don't need, and slave their lives to make money for somebody else.

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[–] tame 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Natural selection takes place at the level of nations as well as individuals. Nations where the system is designed to waste peoples' time will eventually fall into decay, making way for nations which optimise their peoples' effectiveness.

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[–] Al_Rubyx 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Jeez, alright Tyler durden.

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[–] DashingLeech 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

To be polite, this is incorrect. Since I'm not all that polite when it comes to this sort of thing, it's also conspiracy theory bullshit.

It's the same mistake that the religious make with respect to the "argument from design" when attacking evolution. Starting at the end product and seeing the dynamics of the system, you have applied an assumption of intentional design. That is neither necessary nor true.

Any system of transactions, with simple transactional rules will have emegent propeties of the system. The system is, indeed, designed for progress. How well it does that is up for debate, and ways people do transactional exploits or subvert the system are up for debate, but regardless the overall system performance is not the product of a master plan. More importantly, scientists aren't mindless cogs; if the system were subveting actual scientific progress, they would subvert the system. I say this with more than 40 publications of my own.

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[–] raspberryvine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's called modern slavery.

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[–] AberdolfLincler 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Agreed. This isn't much of a shock to me, seeing as it's been reported multiple times over the years that the Harper Government has been muzzling its scientists. Yay Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/muzzling-of-federal-scientists-widespread-survey-suggests-1.2128859 http://democracywatch.ca/campaigns/tell-harper-to-stop-muzzling-scientists/

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[–] Calibas 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I had a scientist explain to me that while corporate control corrupts science, it's a good thing because scientists get more money. I can't help but think he may have been a little biased.

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[–] EndDrugAndOtherWars 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

thezeigeistmovement.com? Or anarco-capitaism.

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[–] jurimasa 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Please, don't. I was into Zeitgeist for more than 2 years. In the end, I saw Zeitgeist as just an extreme form of fascism with more CGI, and Peter Joseph is just another cunt with messianic delusions who exploited the vision of Jacqe Fresco because he lacks a vision of his own. I kind of like anarchism, but the problem I see is that anarcho-capitalism is basically just feudalism. The strong will exploit the weak without remorse or consequences in an anarcho-capitalist society.