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[–] 1260703? 2 points 122 points (+124|-2) ago 

No problem avoiding fb and DB but man do I have a rough time cutting off Google, and I know exactly how bad they really are and massive threat they pose. I'm ashamed ...

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[–] RamenJunkie 1 points 45 points (+46|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I pretty much stopped using Google, though not so much because of the NSA but more because Google feels worse than the NSA about data gathering. They probably pull as much if not more data and unlike the NSA they aren't an incompetent Government agency and can actually use this data in unknown ways.

I also got tired or them constantly trying to dictate the best way they think something can be done as the only way and forcing G+ onto everything while constantly closing useful side project.

I switched a lot of my services and such to Microsoft equivalents.

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[–] PoopfeastKidsMeal 0 points 115 points (+115|-0) ago 

While I could be completely wrong, I'm not sure if switching from Google to Microsoft is going to really help you in terms of privacy. Kinda feels like two sides to the same coin to me.

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[–] Ellen_Kung_Pao 0 points 56 points (+56|-0) ago  (edited ago)

  1. You do know that Google is 100% fine with selling data to the NSA, and do so? It's only adding one step in the process.

  2. It's on record (through Snowden-leaked files) that Microsoft will hold back [EDIT: SECURITY] updates they already have finished for products (I don't remember all that were listed, but I remember Office is explicitly listed many times) in order to allow for the NSA and five-eyes to use them. Heck, there are recollections of time in there where TOLD the NSA they had 'x weeks' to use this 'very specific' "issue" with Office. Microsoft is 100% NOT YOUR FRIEND EITHER.

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[–] Lag-wagon 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

There is no good here, just lesser evils. Microsoft not only has back doors for the NSA. They worked together to make them. Why do you think windows 10 is free?

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[–] scrubhero 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago  (edited ago)

  • Use startpage as a google search replacement. Retrieves the same results as google minus the tracking.
  • Android phones can have Cyanogenmod loaded onto it with, or without, your choice of google apps.
  • Speaking of google apps, there's an alternative for everyone of their popular services, Waze for Maps, Simplenote for note taking, Telegram/Wickr for messaging etc.
  • There's plenty of gmail replacements, Tutanota, Protonmail and so on to name a few.

Edit: okay Google owns waze it seems. That said it's not as intrusive like maps is (in my limited experience).

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[–] TackleDummy 0 points 44 points (+44|-0) ago 

fyi, Google bought Waze.

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[–] bisaya 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

I think Waze has been acquired by Google.

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[–] CAKE_RAPE 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Open Street Maps instead of Waze.

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[–] Lag-wagon 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

How do you feel about ddg.gg?

Android (trademark) is owned by Google I'm sure they have code in there somewhere to jump on your phone. Secondly, all big telcos collect data in transit.

Waze is owned by Google. I'm the mod at /v/waze (shameless plug). It is a great app but don't expect privacy it is a SOCIAL GPS program.

The only good email alt. Got shut down for having too high encryption.

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[–] Rea11yN0tMe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The reason I don't like FB and G+ is because I'm never sure if I'm sharing something with a friend or the world.

At the beginning I tried to figure out the privacy settings of FB, but as they change all the time, you always have to be careful. Now I just can't be bothered anymore and don't post anything.

Same with G+. If I sign up, will my YouTube playlists be made public under my real name? Just too much bother and risk to my privacy.

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[–] FuckReddit- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

just use DuckDuckGo I just switched over recently and I really like it. as a new company they still have work to do but its really not bad and they don't track your services. also if you have an iphone you can switch it on settings under safari.

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[–] scrubhero 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Check out startpage, you'll probably like it more than ddg, gives you the same results as google

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[–] irishredfox 0 points 71 points (+71|-0) ago 

When you say, ‘I have nothing to hide,’ you’re saying, ‘I don’t care about this right.’ You’re saying, ‘I don’t have this right, because I’ve got to the point where I have to justify it.’ The way rights work is, the government has to justify its intrusion into your rights.

That's a great quote. I'm gonna say this as much as possible.

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[–] scrubhero 1 points 41 points (+42|-1) ago 

If anyone is looking for replacements to apps and services they use, give this website a look, pretty of straightforward information on what to look out for:

http://privacytools.io/

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[–] 1268485? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That site has a bunch of great suggestions but if you're short on cash your options are limited when it comes to VPNs and storage.

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[–] LordHumongus 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

if you're short on cash your options are limited when it comes to VPNs and storage.

Bandwidth and storage are expensive so getting them free is a lot harder. The only "free" ones I know of want to sell your data.

If something's free you're the product being sold.

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[–] arrggg 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Great link, this needs to be upvoted to the top.

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[–] dirtydarth 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Prism Break and /g/'s wiki have some pretty good information too.

And if you're really serious, you could help with the Meshnet and boycott Lenovo.

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[–] VivaFrei 6 points 22 points (+28|-6) ago  (edited ago)

In other words, just stay off the Internet.

[edit] I am not taking a position, or being serious about staying off the internet. You just have to operate on the basis that there will always be privacy issues inherent to the internet. It is a public highway of sorts... Filled with unscrupulous drivers looking, or trying to look in your window, trying to break into your car, etc. So you have to be careful, and assume that what you put online can be hacked or accessed. Ashley Madison is a pretty good example of the risks of the internet, even when privacy is promised.

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[–] geist 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago 

There's more to the internet than a few shitty companies.

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[–] Ellen_Kung_Pao 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Very true, but Google + Microsoft encompass a fuckload of internet / computer things.

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[–] Clayton 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

The problem is that everyone collects data and there are only very few companies that create quality products that won't hand over your data to the government or allow back doors. Apple is one of those companies. I keep saying time after time after time, the privacy aspect of Apple products greatly justifies the price and the non-customization aspects of most Apple products.

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[–] Devel 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Agreed, mostly. I think there should be less of a push for alternatives and more push to get the big companies to fix these privacy issues. Or provide more assurance. There will always be some risk you have to take, though. There are always privacy risks in everything you do, even with offline things.

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[–] pinguinos 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The most effective way to get these companies to change is to leave.

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[–] sng-ign 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

In other words, just stay off the Internet.

Finally, some sense. The internet - as originally created - was hardly safe (either you had the tools to use it or not). Since the user base has increased, I'd assume there's very little security on it .... Sadly, there is no widely available substitute at the moment.

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[–] FunkyBussir 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I was gonna write simply the same thing. I don't think I could enjoy the social aspects of the internet while still realistically having my privacy. It's just not gonna happen.

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[–] luisbg 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago  (edited ago)

DuckDuckGo shout out

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[–] pinguinos 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I like www.ecosia.org better personally.

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[–] luisbg 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Didn't knew about it. Very interesting concept!

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[–] theoldguy 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

I haven't tried Dropbox, but can't you upload stuff you've already encrypted yourself? And I use Google search because it's so much more thorough than anything else, but I have NoScript killing just about everything to cut down on the useless HTML bling.

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[–] atldude 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

It's generally not a good idea to keep using software like Truecrypt that have stopped development: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueCrypt#End_of_life_announcement

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[–] Rummel 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Does the Mega desktop app not suck yet?

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[–] JimmyJimRyan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Don't use Truecrypt, use veracrypt or some truecrypt spinoff.

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[–] puddlewonderful 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I don't think Dropbox has the same privacy threat as fb and Google. If you think so based on reputation, I get that they really screwed up, but they've redone many security features to appeal better towards business clients. Its part of my job to research document management solutions and after comparing Dropbox to 20+ alternatives they trump every competitor in just about every field. I'm unsure about how they only encrypt while in transit, although the article says this also means "at rest"

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[–] In_Cog_Nito 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What's your opinion of ownCloud? I use it for desktop and android for syncing of files, media, contacts, and calendar.

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[–] ddd 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

not an expert here, but why do you think db isn't a threat? http://www.drop-dropbox.com/

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[–] bigpook 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I use dropbox with encfs. Works great for the stuff that I want to hide. Some other stuff is in the open but I don't care who sees it.

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[–] Lag-wagon 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You can try ddg.gg

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[–] Jeffersond517 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Any service offered for free is open to the lure of big bucks from data mining. The service provider has to make hay from something. I just saying

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[–] philomath 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I read it succinctly said that "if you aren't paying for the service, you are the payment."

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[–] throwedtoad 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This...nothings free.

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[–] JimmyJimRyan 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And and service that's not free. Paying for something is no protection.

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[–] 1rash 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Add "free news" to that list. If you get any free news be sure as hell somebody else has paid for it in some way to profit.

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[–] GeorgeMichael 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I haven't tried it yet, but I heard good things about: tutanota  

I use posteo, it's a german email service (posteo, protect your email the German way). I think its fully available in english now.

It's worth mentioning that these two support DANE

edit: list of good alternatives

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[–] In_Cog_Nito 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I have my own business website and hosted email, and that's what I use (IMAP over SSL/TLS). If you want email service that values your privacy you are going to have to pay for it.

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