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[–] dart200 4 points 7 points (+11|-4) ago 

I honestly don't see what's wrong with "forcing" them to be decent human beings and pay people liveable wages ...

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[–] let_them_eat_slogans 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Neither do I, really, except for that minimum wage hikes are an imperfect solution. In the long term and on a broader scale, we need to figure out a better way to subsidize those workers and those businesses (ie through something like basic income).

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[–] dart200 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I wonder how much basic income would change the working climate. Suddenly people wouldn't have to take shit jobs to live a relatively stable life, and those shit jobs would have to become less shitty jobs.

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[–] lolol42 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

People aren't saying there should be no min. wage increase. But $15 is ridiculous. What if they were demanding $20/hour and calling it a 'living wage'? It's just political hyperbole.

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[–] dart200 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

why is $10 not ridiculous but $15 is?

$10/hr = $20,000 a year $15/hr = $30,000 a year. $10,000 makes a huge difference to people in that category.

I really think $20/hr is much more reasonable. Giving everybody $40,000/yr would create a lot more of a free market than we have today, because the general populous would have a lot more money to spend on non-essential, but possibly extremely life enriching things.