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[–] let_them_eat_slogans 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

There's no real alternative.

You can raise the minimum wage, and force businesses to offer liveable wages.

You can keep wages low, and continue to subsidize low wage workers through your tax dollars via the social safety net.

Or you can keep wages low, cut the social safety net, and suffer the societal consequences of higher poverty rates (crime et al).

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[–] dart200 4 points 7 points (+11|-4) ago 

I honestly don't see what's wrong with "forcing" them to be decent human beings and pay people liveable wages ...

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[–] let_them_eat_slogans 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Neither do I, really, except for that minimum wage hikes are an imperfect solution. In the long term and on a broader scale, we need to figure out a better way to subsidize those workers and those businesses (ie through something like basic income).

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[–] lolol42 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

People aren't saying there should be no min. wage increase. But $15 is ridiculous. What if they were demanding $20/hour and calling it a 'living wage'? It's just political hyperbole.