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[–] libby 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

Other than threatening a neighbor, I don't think any of that sounds too bad. I don't think threatening a neighbor justifies having your kids taken either.

As long as they provide an education, there's nothing wrong with not enrolling your kids in school. Composting toilets are fine, no need for a septic or sewer system. You can also live fine without running water. I can't imagine why tents would be problematic either (including birthing). People really need to mind their own business more.

Some other people brought up more serious issues that sound like they may make a CPS intervention okay, but what you listed really doesn't justify kidnapping.

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[–] Einmensch 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

They are reasons for concern enough for CPS to come see if they should actually take the child away. In this case their suspicions/fears seemed to be the case.

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[–] wtfduud 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

iirc One of their children admitted in court that they were being abused by the parents.

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[–] libby 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes, there were other things that were actually concerning. I'm just objecting to the notion that living a primitive lifestyle should mean losing your kids. None of the examples that were given in reply to me would justify a CPS response. The dad should have gotten a visit from the cops and possible attested for threatening a neighbor but that's it.

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[–] UndeadBelaLugosi 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Taking children into protective custody in order to determine if they are in danger in their current situation does not justify the use of the term kidnapping, which is pejorative by its very nature. It is used to provoke an emotional response without knowing the basis for the removal. I am far from a police apologist, but when your child and mother are testifying against you there is probably a solid reason for concern.

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[–] libby 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'd say that it depends on why they were taken if the term kidnapping or rescue is proper. In this case, it looks like it actually was rescuing the kids. But based on what people were saying, it would be kidnapping. The truth is that there were more serious reasons to be concerned than what people in this thread said.