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[–] cinderblock 6 points 118 points (+124|-6) ago 

As much as I am not a fan of Mitch, in all fairness, I highly doubt he has any knowledge of or control of any operations within that company. Just my personal opinion.

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[–] FreeSpeachRocks [S] 20 points 44 points (+64|-20) ago 

Plausible deniability. The key phrase of modern American politics.

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[–] cinderblock 5 points 25 points (+30|-5) ago 

Yes, and no. Again, the odds that he has any knowledge at all of what goes on daily within that company are slim and next to none. Probably couldn't even name any of their ships.

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[–] atw 11 points 23 points (+34|-11) ago 

Stupid bullshit that "confirms" some idiotic bias. The key phrase of modern Voat/Reddit circlejerking.

  1. The boat is not owned directly by the senator, it's owned by people who are associated with him.

  2. Last time I checked the owner of a boat (one of many) does not deal with every single little package that goes on their boat, they have employees to do that.

  3. You're a moron who should go back to Reddit and /r/Politics if you seriously believe any of the shit you're posting. The media and people like you who post this shit is literally disgusting and they will twist absolutely anything into a story.

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[–] Proppa 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

And yet the people smuggling those drugs are rooting for his campaign, because without the war on drugs they would be out of business. I'm not going to make judgement calls either way about this little conspiracy, there simply isn't enough evidence. But I will point out how everyone here presumes that fighting against drugs and smuggling drugs are two polar opposites. They aren't. For example, major pot distributors have openly admitted they vote to keep pot illegal. It makes more money. The people who get busted are the small-time dealers with big dreams, the big players rarely (if ever) get caught. They rarely get their hands dirty.

Let's forget about the associations, that's irrelevant. Let's give him and his family full benefit of the doubt. Now let's look at the fact that the smuggling has gone on for who knows how long, right under the nose of this guy spearheading the war on drugs. It should portray how laughably stupid the entire endeavor is, if he can't even keep drugs out of his own backyard how is he going to keep drug trade out of the entire nation? That's what we should be focusing on. Fuck these conspiracy theories, the truth is more incriminating to his campaign. It's an embarrassment, and we should all point/laugh at him accordingly.

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[–] abk006 1 points 37 points (+38|-1) ago 

Yeah, it's 90lbs on a giant fucking cargo ship. I'd say that points to 'crew member trying to make a quick buck' rather than 'international drug smuggling ring led by US Senator'.

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[–] chakan2 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I disagree with you, but it's speculation...90 lbs of coke is a HUGE barrel of money. I've got to believe he's getting a piece of that to "look the other way." Plus, his anti-drug stance keeps the market rates high. He's involved IMHO, but it will be difficult to prove.

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[–] cinderblock 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

That implies that he has a hand in day to day operations of this company, to even be able to look away. I find that highly unlikely. They are simply his pocket book, he doesn't give a shit about a cargo ship.

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[–] Volcris 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I honestly doubt anyone in the company or working the boat did.

Cartels have been known to weld cocaine containers on the bottoms of cruise ships and build freaking submarines in order to smuggle their drugs.

You really think it's that far fetched to sneak on the thing and plant some in a container some where? Or just plant it on the container while the container is still on shore before it's loaded?

Some one on that ship could have known, but I honestly think at this point it's 50-50 no one did.

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[–] Pokerguy 6 points 76 points (+82|-6) ago 

What an idiotic article. One of many ships owned by a company that has ties to a family that McConnell married into is found to have some drugs stashed on it. It takes a complete leap of idiocy to try and somehow connect that to Mitch.

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[–] garbagehat 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

This is what makes good news now though. Get in as much speculation and nonsense as possible.

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[–] QuintiliusVarus 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

and dont forget recycle it... the first time i saw this story was october last year - but hey, let's write a NEW article and slap a 'recently' in there.

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[–] Gordam 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I heard the journalist of that article had his press release revoked earlier this year by the senator, so chances are he's out for revenge.

Granted, I originally heard this from myself when I spoke it out loud, but I trust this source 100%.

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[–] FreeSpeachRocks [S] 7 points 7 points (+14|-7) ago 

Not sure I would say idiotic. Certainly thought provoking.

The article highlights some questionable connections of a man who has spent much of his career fighting the drug scourge. Indeed McConnell has been an avid supporter of civil forfeiture. Government agents have certainly not hesitated to seize many other Americans assets without even finding drugs or making criminal charges, including the property of uninvolved 3rd parties. One would expect in a case like this that those same agents would be all over the company and it's assets...

It is also worth remembering thatl the guy(s) at the top of 'criminal enterprises' tend to be squeaky clean. It is a crucial element to sustaining the enterprise lest some aspect of it is discovered.

Then again this could all be due to a lone seaman acting on his own... though 90 pounds is a lot of cocaine.

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[–] TheJubJubBird 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

McConnell has been an avid supporter of civil forfeiture

Only part of this that makes it newsworthy. Confiscate the whole ship despite the likelihood the owners had nothing to do with this. The only way to get bad laws changed is to make the laws apply equally regardless of social status and political connections.

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[–] Statecensor 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I want you to think about this for a second Pokerguy. Most U.S. Senators and Congressmen get nailed not by million dollar bribes or favors like getting their children no show cushy jobs. What fucks them is the 10K free driveway job from a local contractor who wants a contract worth millions or a local businessman who is shown giving a Senator 5k in a shoe box or maybe free electronics worth 2k. Its the small bribes in the end that bring them down each and every single time.

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[–] Pokerguy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Oh trust me, I have very little faith in congress critters and I wouldn't put it past any of them to be involved in bad stuff. This particular case doesn't present anything that even remotely smells of malfeasance on the part of McConnell. It's just drivel and conjecture.

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[–] TalkingAnimal 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Seriously. It would be like if your uncle owned a major portion UPS, and someone shipped a box of drugs via UPS, and then they blamed you for it.

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[–] Stopped_clock 3 points 17 points (+20|-3) ago  (edited ago)

"Mr McConnel, tell us the romantic story of why you fell in love with your wife"

McConnell married Elaine Chao and secured the Chao family as one of his primary sources for investments.

A gift worth somewhere between 5 and 25 million dollars from the Chao Family made McConnel one of the richest senators in the country in 2008.

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[–] Pokerguy 4 points 20 points (+24|-4) ago 

The insinuation is that McConnell married Elaine Chao in order to get funding. Without any supporting evidence provided, I'd say that's BS. So, he married into a wealthy family. Shockingly, that family supported their new son-in-law financially later. Gasp, conspiracy!

Common guys, seriously?

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[–] bill.lee 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

It's a fair counter argument to make but I do disagree. I suppose if we were talking about the guy around the corner, the argument makes more sense (Guy gets married, in-laws help him out) but I believe politicians, particular at the level of McConnell, move within a different strata of society...so those arguments become less salient to me.

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[–] sneakybells 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No, it's just very serendipitous that they were shipping drugs on their in laws boat who they've also been paying massive amounts of money to.

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[–] crysys 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Actually I'd more readily believe that the Chao family married Elaine to Mitch in order to secure a US senator they have the ear of. That can come in mighty handy for people in the "import/export business".

But I have zero evidence for this.

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[–] atw 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Seriously this thread is cancer. It's fucking embarrassing that there are people retarded enough to upvote this kind of shit just because they dislike the senator.

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[–] dualplains 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Ah, dowries. Getting rid of ugly daughters since 2500 BC.

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[–] upvote_nothing 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Romantic kickback

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[–] Lordperiwinkle 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

This just in! The Senator's nephew knows a guy at school who believes in evolution, a stance the senator has repeatedly disagreed with.

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[–] sneakybells 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Did you read the article. He was married to the same criminal organization that was shipping drugs who also have been lining his pockets since 1980.

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[–] syllovespan 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This is my thought too. According to the article, they've been financing his career for a very long time. Perhaps the question we should ask is why does this man get most of his financing from a large Chinese corporation, isn't that a conflict of interest?

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[–] Lordperiwinkle 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I read the article. I feel it's a hit piece that should be viewed with a skeptical eye.

The organization most likely isn't in the drug trade, it was much likley being misused by employees and to tie that to a political figure is a huge stretch.

PS I dislike most congressmen. One from KY, Dr Paul I do like. That said I'm not trying to protect this guy, just say its a very poor article.

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[–] Sorahzahd 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Reading? Nah, McConnell supporters aren't that educated.

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[–] 654456 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

Somebody is using their jumping to conclusions mat.

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[–] Porphyrogennetos 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Could Be

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[–] Ladderjack 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

You know what is a great way to increase the market value of a commodity? Make it contraband.

You know what is a great way to make something contraband? Have your family's pet U.S. senator ensure it stays illegal.

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[–] Bertram 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Genuine questions: Did you read the article? If so, do you still believe the is a legitimate connection?

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[–] tuckahoefunland 5 points 5 points (+10|-5) ago 

This is a nightmare title and article. A cargo ship, owned by a corporation, owned by the family of his wife? The most obvious connection we're going to take away from this is that McConnel is some time of sneaking drug smuggler? And his wealthy in-laws donate to his campaign and that's surprising? Or abnormal?

There is absolutely zero chance that a prominent U.S. Senator would risk his career and party's reputation over 90 pounds of cocaine. That isn't even that much.

The click bait is strong with this shit post. 0/10 would not click again.

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[–] boater 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

The most obvious connection we're going to take away from this is that McConnel is some time of sneaking drug smuggler?

To quote Alan Watts:

"The laws of the United States and the programs, government sponsored, concerning the use of addictive drugs are a total failure. Not only a total failure, but they are making the problem worse. They are so stupid, that anyone supporting those laws must be either a moron or involved in the racket. It's that bad."

People already suspected Mitch McConnel of having financial ties to drug smugglers prior to this article simply on the basis that he supported strong anti-drug laws.

There is absolutely zero chance that a prominent U.S. Senator would risk his career and party's reputation over 90 pounds of cocaine.

Politicians are continuously accepting money from all sorts of people representing all sorts of interests. A certain proportion of the money which politicians receive indirectly comes from the drug trade.

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[–] Sorahzahd 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

But but but, <insert mealy mouthed defense of McConnell's drug smuggling here>.

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[–] p0ssum 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Hey man, we're not saying anything, we're just trying to, you know, provoke thought and conversation. Quit being such a drag...

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[–] tuckahoefunland 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

It is saying something though. The implications are horribly inaccurate. This is /v/news, not /v/conspiracy. It's the equivalent of drug dealer borrowing his sister's husbands Cadillac, getting pulled over, and running a story on the CEO of GM being involved in potential drug dealing.

And the website this story is from is a complete loony bin. I'm not sure which link I want to not click first, the one about vaccines massacring thousands of people, the one about the Freemasons taking over the world, or the one about Obama being a reptilian overlord. It's a complete shit show.

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[–] Athideus 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

According to some research, the math follows
90Lbs = 40.82 Kilograms
Price of 1 Kg in Kentucky = $27,500 - $37,000 depending on location
27,500 x 40.82 = 1,122,550
37,000 x 40.82 = 1,510,340
So that coke was worth anywhere from $1.1m to $1.5m in the Senators home state... All IF the coke is completely uncut, which I don't know how much it is cut when it hits the streets, but a yahoo answers said 5-6 times. Someone is having a REALLY bad day...
(Sources: http://www.narcoticnews.com/drug-prices/cocaine/ https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090210224207AAApKDv and Google for unit conversion)

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[–] Sorahzahd 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

"Someone" = Mitch McConnell.

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