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[–] Ancient_Unknown 1 points 61 points (+62|-1) ago 

Career politicians getting paid to not do the one job they have which is to read the god damn bills they sign/vote for.

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[–] Superking 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Oh, they're doing exactly what they've been paid to do.

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[–] social 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

This is actually probably what happened.

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[–] dart11 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Just wanted to hijack the top comment to make a plug for /v/tppartnership, as a place to spread news and awareness about the TPP.

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[–] voat- 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thanks.. I'm not subscribed

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[–] Moomanji 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

U.S. Citizen here, Hijacking the top comment to say I just sent letters (well, emails) to all of my congressional representatives pleading to them to actually read this thing and give the American people time to ACTUALLY READ THE THING and give comment before voting on it.

From everything I have seen, it seems to be an abomination. Contact your representative in your respective State/Country, this shit needs more light of day.

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[–] airbreather02 2 points 150 points (+152|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Canadian here. The Harper government doesn't give a rat's ass about us regular Canadians. If the main sticking point is all about the dairy industry I think it's down their lobbying of the government, they don't want to lose their national monopoly.

If this one issue sinks the TPP for Canada, then I'm all for it. It's bad news. You know something is very wrong when governments don't want their people to see what they are doing behind closed doors. We have a federal election in less than a hundred days and I'm going to find out where the current MP and all the candidates for my riding stand on this. I urge all my fellow Canadians to vote and make your voices heard.

The same goes for everyone, everywhere else. Please vote, it's the only way to have a voice.

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 34 points (+34|-0) ago 

Good luck to our northern neighbors. I hope you can rid yourselves of that shit.

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[–] JustCallMeCam 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

God knows we wont be able to get rid of it.

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[–] Porphyrogennetos 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The milk lobby? Never. They are way too entrenched. Way too rich off of these fucking ridiculous prices.

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[–] MenstruatingMuffin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You know it's bad when an AMERICAN calls OUR government official a piece of shit.

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[–] DeadEnd 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Sadly the alternatives are far, far worse.

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[–] generic_individual 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

This is it, in a nutshell... The only support the conservatives have left is "their base" in the traditional "christianfarmerrednecksortofperson"... They can't piss off the farmers this close to an election; so will talk and talk about how they are going to "stand strong". If they (gawd forbid) somehow win another mandate, these individuals will get thrown under the same bus the rest of us are accustom to getting run over by...

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[–] ShowMeYourGenitals 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Uh, the PC's have a lot of support in religiously conservative, business-minded immigrants as well.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Before we blame conservatives, lets not forget who the main man trying to push the tpp is.

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[–] merton 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Let's get rid of Harper, but also of the TPP.

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[–] core_dumpd 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I'm curious what you believe Canada has to gain from TPP? Cheaper dairy? Cheaper poultry? Those are pretty inconsequential if it means disrupting your own producers. Here's the big takeaway from the article:

U.S. farmers stand to be a big beneficiary of any new inroads into Canadian dairy and poultry markets.

And Canadian farmers stand to gain what?

It's a lopsided deal, and that's why you don't see the government giving it much attention.

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[–] Ex-Redditor 0 points 62 points (+62|-0) ago 

I wish Australia grew a backbone and did the same thing.

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[–] bleatingnonsense 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

Dont be fooled. Elections are coming here in Canada. In 3 months Canada will sign whatever is needed of them to 'make the economy stronger for everyone'.

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[–] beflacktor 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago 

in 3 months the harper conservatives will be tossed and it will be either a(good chance atm) ndp (socialist) or liberal gov who u can bet your ass will toss this agreement to the curb, what one gov can sign another can undo

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[–] The_Time_Master 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

'make the economy stronger for everyone capital owners'.

FTFY

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[–] Feeling_my_goats 6 points 0 points (+6|-6) ago 

They should do whatever they can to "make the economy stronger.". Nothing wrong with growth. Governments should promote free trade and commerce... And provide a sufficient saftey net to protect and help those who are negatively impacted.

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[–] Disappointed 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

There's no cash under the table for having a backbone.

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[–] sozcaps 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not sure it's even under the table, and not sure many politicians know shame.

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[–] Imperius 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Isn't that at least 80% of Australia anyway?

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[–] voidchoice 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Agreed! the more I hear about the TPP the more I fear its implications and our government is standing there with pen in hand waiting to sign.

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[–] OverlordCole 0 points 37 points (+37|-0) ago 

I wish everybody would back out of it....

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[–] coldacid 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

I think every businessperson or politician pushing for the TPP should be hung or shot by each of their countries for committing treason.

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[–] lexsird 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

Then resurrected and executed all over again, rinse and repeat as needed.

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[–] JesusIsAVelociraptor 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I disagree.. as an American I am pretty sure that signing this treaty gives us authority over your nation. So feel free to sign it, we will start taxing your citizens shortly.

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[–] Caerlocc 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, they should just lose their power. When leadership sucks, the best course is to find a suitable and capable replacement. The system has just made it realllly hard to do.

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[–] Sops 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Only takes a few to back out for the whole thing to fall apart.

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[–] notreally 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not everyone needs to back out of it, just enough countries to make it not worthwhile. The US won't fight for a treaty that only covers them, the UK, and, say, Brunei.

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[–] moeburn 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago 

At least link to the article itself and not an article talking about the article:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tension-builds-between-canada-us-over-tpp-deal/article25524829/

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[–] AberdolfLincler 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

No way... Harper is actually doing something that makes sense? Actually, he's been pretty good about the Ukraine situation too to be fair, although that's a bit of a no-brainer, we have a huge Ukraine population. That doesn't make up for everything else, but I won't deny when he does something right for a change.

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[–] bleatingnonsense 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Just wait till the elections are over. This treaty will be signed. Since you brought it up, what happened in Ukraine was a military putsch, and you shouldnt be proud to have been a part of it.

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[–] coldacid 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Found the vacationing Russian!

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[–] escapefromredditbay 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

crossing my fingers theyre greed takes over for once...and, i dotn say that often.

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[–] 80sProduct 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

brb moving to Canada

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[–] GarrioValere 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

You can be arrested in Canada for having a twitter fight... I'll pass.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

At this rate, something like that is likely to wind up in the US.

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[–] ShowMeYourGenitals 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Canada has enough problems that most people who would say that would be entirely underwhelemed upon moving there.

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[–] Valyrios 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

A lot of liberal Americans say this, few actually do.

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[–] taxation_is_slavery 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Because the border is closed unless you have youth and a degree up your ass, or are a Somalian hired killer.

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[–] mcmac 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Now if only we got out of the UN

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[–] yeast 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Honest question. Why?

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[–] mcmac 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why should Canadians be "forced" to follow laws/rules written by and voted on by representatives of foreign nations? That boggles my mind. Then there is the whole fact that it is a puppet show and a farce where N.Korea could lead a nuclear disarmament committee as an example. I'm also for small local government and the UN by definition is anything but that.

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