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[–] EIMR 50 points 4 points (+54|-50) ago  (edited ago)

Wrong. Minimum wage was created so that workers in industrial revolution factories(or rather sweatshops) had a salary that allowed workers to have a living wage(or rather, wikipedia says "to afford the necessaries of life").

Rather, you believe that there shouldn't be a minimum wage.

EDIT: Also, about making yourself a more valuable asset.

Someone who is working a minimum wage job cannot afford school, or a computer and internet to learn online. Someone working two jobs still can't afford it, and can't go to school/university because they don't have time.
And imagine going to the job interview while poor. You cannot afford a suit, you cannot afford to clean yourself up.
Poor people cannot systematically raise themselves out of poverty.

Also, there must always be someone below. There must always be someone doing worse jobs and earning less. Should those who are below not be able to afford necessities? You cannot apply advice to a singular person as a solution for the whole of society.

[–] lemon11 5 points 29 points (+34|-5) ago 

Wrong. Price floors are created to distort the market so that people are atomized, miserable, and demand more intervention.

[–] Mylon 6 points -2 points (+4|-6) ago 

Every developed country has a minimum wage (or something effectively serving the same purpose, like in Denmark). The United States is reverting to a developing country because it's minimum wage is so low. If you want to live in a shithole country with a "free market", go move to one of those shithole countries. But advanced economies are built upon the concept that workers are not necessarily paid what they're worth and there is a huge divide between wealth produced and wealth monetized and socialistic policies (including Social Security and minimum wage) aim to mitigate this fact.

[–] mrfetus 4 points -4 points (+0|-4) ago 

Wrong

What a fucking autist. Maybe people just don't like you.

[–] EIMR 10 points -7 points (+3|-10) ago 

Real non-evil economists believe in minimum wage, it is not a conspiracy. It was invented by the worker's rights movement(is that how it's called?) because in the industrial revolution factories(or rather sweatshops) people earned jackshit. They also had to live in a room with ten other people. I believe that makes them much more miserable than a minimum wage.

[–] glassuser 5 points 15 points (+20|-5) ago 

Yes, trust Wikipedia. It always has the truth.

[–] FrozenFire74 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

As well as a multitude of history books that discuss the matter, yes I will. Minimum wage jobs used to support a family of 4 with one member of the household working 40 hours a week.

[–] Mylon 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Wikipedia is a starting point. Just like you can't trust RT or MSNBC fully, but they can provide some information to build a complete picture.

[–] EIMR 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Sometimes you have to trust something. It is a detailed article sourcing a 1997 book. Due to this I do not believe it was invented. Specially since the alternative explanation(that it was created for high schoolers) makes little sense.

[–] Eualos 3 points 11 points (+14|-3) ago 

Library is free

[–] absolutelynotabot 5 points 5 points (+10|-5) ago 

In an age where you need a $10,000 - $100,000 piece of paper to get an ENTRY LEVEL job, libraries wouldn't help shit.

[–] kalgon 9 points 1 points (+10|-9) ago  (edited ago)

And?

You think because you've read all the books in the library you'll get a job?

That's not how it works, you don't get a job because you know this or that, you get a job because you have credentials, a fucking degree saying "this guy went there and passed that", the rest is completely irrelevant, you can memorize the entire library it's worthless without a degree, to get hired pretty much anywhere (and we're not talking about mcdonald here)

[–] EIMR 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Can they even go to the library? Maybe it's different in your country, but I have to walk an hour to get to a library, and here in Europe things are much closer(and we have more socialist things like public libraries). If they have to drive to the library they can't afford it. There might not even be a library.

And if they are working two jobs as many do, they do not have the time or energy to study there.

Also, how useful is the library? Most jobs as far as I know ask you for a degree. If you do not have a degree, which is proof that you know what you are doing, nobody is going to hire you. Employers are not just going to trust you and believe you know the subject without proof.

[–] Hilarious_Exception 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

Can they afford the library?

[–] EIMR 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Can they even go? Maybe it's different in your country, but I have to walk an hour to get to a library, and here in Europe things are much closer(and we have more socialist things like public libraries). If they have to drive to the library they can't afford it. There might not even be a library.

And if they are working two jobs as many do, they do not have the time or energy to study there.

Also, how useful is the library? Most jobs as far as I know ask you for a degree. If you do not have a degree, which is proof that you know what you are doing, nobody is going to hire you. Employers are not just going to trust you and believe you know the subject without proof.