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Yes, Native American cultures are very animistic and the main problem they etherealize it and spiritualize it into one great Spirit, rather than keeping it as rational as one can keep it, and ultimately this kind of religious mentality leads to a kind of physicalist culture, where everything is dictated by brute emotions and behavioral complexes rather than anything truly productive, but the Native Americans were the best at being able to facilitate it to survival and civilizational building, as represented in the Temples in Mesoamerica, which are just cheaper versions of the Pyramids and Ziggurats.
They sometimes say that if diseases had not killed Native Americans(like Inuits(they have IQs of 90) and North American variety with less connections to Mesoamerica) and if they had been allowed to have their own place to live, as was the case with George III's Demarcation Line they might have been the only primitive peoples to produce a great mind, but I highly, highly doubt this based off my experiences with Natives and understanding of Native American culture in general, given how they have generally not inculcated the civilizational model these days and prefer to live off the grid so to speak.
The Great Spirit and Totem notion of religion was certainly of a more developed spiritual mentality than anything coming out of the primitive world and one could even say the Middle-East and South-Asia. Did the Native Americans chop down trees in large amounts? There is nothing wrong with chopping trees down. People did it in Quebec and Oregon had a lot of Ulster-Scots that moved out there and were timber man.
I can see the point of your argument, it might have been best to keep a certain part of North America and Canada primitive, so Native Americans could live somewhere in the forests or mountains and would essentially be "reserves." The modern world has degenerated things to a certain extent, but I am more of a believer that our missionary groups were a stronger corrupting force, along with the Peckerwood types that hated the governments guts and wanted to live a life of ex-orbinant luxury, but you know what you can't blame them and the Native Americans had already caused enough damage in North America and were a potential existential threat to a peaceful society and prosperous economy in Southern California, although I might be wrong about this. I ultimately think that Northern Europeans were far and away superior in their treatment of Native Americans compared to the Spaniards, although the Spaniards did give Native Americans places to live in Sonora/Baja, Yucatan, and of course Guatemala is a country that broke off from the Mexican-Central American union sometime around the time when the Wars of Independence against the Spanish were going on.
The Northwestern Company did mess up things a bit in the region of Western Canada and I have always preferred the Hudson Bay Company. Native Americans do well to live in Igloos, the smartest of them to have lived in them or closer to the Tundra. Its not the modern world that is the problem, its how it facilitates things and ultimately what kind of innate problems it plays into, which are a far greater concern.
South Africa did great when Verwoerd modernized the place and was about to create Bantustans, but the problem with modernization is it produces racial and cultural softness, so essentially what you have happening certain factions like Dmitri Tsfarendis and radical whites, like the one who tried to assassinate Verwoerd infiltrate the scene and sometimes on a larger scale than just this. Canada has handled things much better than us to be honest. They were more balanced. We sort of either were too permissive with the Native Americans or bulldozed them.
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Yes, Native American cultures are very animistic and the main problem they etherealize it and spiritualize it into one great Spirit, rather than keeping it as rational as one can keep it, and ultimately this kind of religious mentality leads to a kind of physicalist culture, where everything is dictated by brute emotions and behavioral complexes rather than anything truly productive, but the Native Americans were the best at being able to facilitate it to survival and civilizational building, as represented in the Temples in Mesoamerica, which are just cheaper versions of the Pyramids and Ziggurats.
They sometimes say that if diseases had not killed Native Americans(like Inuits(they have IQs of 90) and North American variety with less connections to Mesoamerica) and if they had been allowed to have their own place to live, as was the case with George III's Demarcation Line they might have been the only primitive peoples to produce a great mind, but I highly, highly doubt this based off my experiences with Natives and understanding of Native American culture in general, given how they have generally not inculcated the civilizational model these days and prefer to live off the grid so to speak.
The Great Spirit and Totem notion of religion was certainly of a more developed spiritual mentality than anything coming out of the primitive world and one could even say the Middle-East and South-Asia. Did the Native Americans chop down trees in large amounts? There is nothing wrong with chopping trees down. People did it in Quebec and Oregon had a lot of Ulster-Scots that moved out there and were timber man.
I can see the point of your argument, it might have been best to keep a certain part of North America and Canada primitive, so Native Americans could live somewhere in the forests or mountains and would essentially be "reserves." The modern world has degenerated things to a certain extent, but I am more of a believer that our missionary groups were a stronger corrupting force, along with the Peckerwood types that hated the governments guts and wanted to live a life of ex-orbinant luxury, but you know what you can't blame them and the Native Americans had already caused enough damage in North America and were a potential existential threat to a peaceful society and prosperous economy in Southern California, although I might be wrong about this. I ultimately think that Northern Europeans were far and away superior in their treatment of Native Americans compared to the Spaniards, although the Spaniards did give Native Americans places to live in Sonora/Baja, Yucatan, and of course Guatemala is a country that broke off from the Mexican-Central American union sometime around the time when the Wars of Independence against the Spanish were going on.
The Northwestern Company did mess up things a bit in the region of Western Canada and I have always preferred the Hudson Bay Company. Native Americans do well to live in Igloos, the smartest of them to have lived in them or closer to the Tundra. Its not the modern world that is the problem, its how it facilitates things and ultimately what kind of innate problems it plays into, which are a far greater concern.
South Africa did great when Verwoerd modernized the place and was about to create Bantustans, but the problem with modernization is it produces racial and cultural softness, so essentially what you have happening certain factions like Dmitri Tsfarendis and radical whites, like the one who tried to assassinate Verwoerd infiltrate the scene and sometimes on a larger scale than just this. Canada has handled things much better than us to be honest. They were more balanced. We sort of either were too permissive with the Native Americans or bulldozed them.