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[–] Doglegwarrior 4 points -3 points (+1|-4) ago 

The wall is the most overblown aspect.. i lived on the border a wall will do nothing realisticaly it could have a 5 perfent drop... they will get around it over it under it or just get good fakes and walk through.. there are two borders the actual border which is easy to go back and forth.. people just dont understand... second thoughts end the fucking drug war take the money we save a d tske the aid from isreal and use it to try and help mexico.. then thry wont have a reason to come here.. do thd fucking canadians invade america????

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[–] Anti-Stupid 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

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[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You are missing a big big aspect of this.. i never said one time dont enforce the border.. im saying the proposed wall will not do what yall intend it to do.. of course in major areas cities etc we need a fence even a wall a big wall, but building a wall the length of the texas border is not reasonable and will not get the returns you want.. drones with infered night vision, more patrols sensors out there that can detect human movement and send in drones etc... could maybe work and would help.. the other countries you are talkign about are tiny in comparason and wd havd this huge issue of mexico being dirt poor and us being super rich which makes the problem worse.. stop funding the jews in the middle east and stop the drug war and help mexico fix its problems then mexicans will have less of a reason to come here.. name a border that is like mexico and america in size and economic disparity

Not comparably the size and amount of traffic moving back and forth on a daily basis.. if you have not lived on a border town it is hard to understand what it is like.

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[–] fuckudatswhy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Good fakes are a thing of the past they got biometrics now. They got cameras that are scanning your Biometrics without your knowledge. You'd be stupid to try and pass with Fakes

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[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

First question? Have you lived on the texas mexico border? I did for 2 years... to get across the border is not difficult even if you are mexican. It is the secondary border that gets easier and harder to a degree.. the wall will not make a signfigant stop in illigals crossing.. if you want a symbolic victory then ok thats one thing but to truly stop illigals from mexico you need to stop the drug war and and stop the cartels... you are a fucking idiot if you think we can build a wall that will really stop mexicans... its fucking insanly long and its not just texas.. commie fornia will let them in if the wall in texas new mexico actualy did anything.. but answer the first question do you have a fucking clue about the border? Have you lived there.

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[–] 0fsgivin 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Well, I used to agree... But actually walls in other parts of the world have worked well.

NOW, would an AMERICAN wall work...eh... I think they would know they won't be shot for approaching it. So again we still might both be right. However, there ARE examples of walls working VERY WELL. Isreal...North Korea... One in Europe worked really well too.. I cant remember the country though. And i mean a recent one not Berlin wall which would also be a good fairly recent example.

That said... I didn't like Mitt Romney. Dude made a good point. Just start arresting hiring managers/landlords of illegals. Also start fining the OWNERS of businesses stupid enough to not catch a hiring manger hiring illegals before the state does. And that will solve the illegal immigration problem.

No job, no place to stay. They will self deport. Or turn themselves in begging to be sent home.

so yah...trumps wall is a red herring. Not to mention the fucker threw in an obvious poison pill. "Mexico will pay for it"... Either he was a fucking idiot which is a real possibility. Or...he drastically underestimated how that would be recieved by mexican citizens...no mexican is going to allow any politican who agrees to that to be re elected.

So when it comes to the wall...Trump fucked it up either by being in on it failing or at BEST being a fucking idiot.