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[–] PewterKey 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I just don't understand how this is going to work. Are they sending/comparing Hashes, literally salt the hash and it's broken. Editing the picture even slightly would also void it.

Are they sending the whole file to some server? Youtube, Imgur/reddit or Facebook alone would DDOS it into the ground. Plus the files could be distorted in a way that makes matching difficult, like over compressing or converting to obscure formats. And this isn't even malicious yet. A malicious website owner might send multiple copies of the same file (maybe with some transformations) to be extra careful about the law. Or might convert pictures into a singleframe high framerate HD video to bulk test. Or the reverse and extract frames of a video as pictures that each individually are tested. The more someone thinks about it the more they will find to break.

Is it manual comparison? Youtube alone gets something like a day's worth of video every minute. Facebook likely is similar. It's literally impossible for humans, unless some magically EU cash is coming out of no where. Plus this would likely still have a huge number of false positives and false negatives.

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[–] PewterKey ago 

I knew those apps existed. My main confusion is on scaling here, there is also an accuracy concern. This isn't some service that people only do when they want, it's suppose to be all websites that service the EU use for legal compliance. I guess I should have been more clear that even with compression I'm not sure that they can build a reliable system. Petabytes of data, likely more, transferring everyday to some server farm to be compared to a growing list of other works and it's likely needs to be a near instant turn around and not some queue. But I guess I was going on the assumption that this is a standalone EU datacenter that does the work.

But they could give websites some app/script that compares whatever compressed or converted file to the database. Then send a remove or keep signal back. Then the website should remove offending material, possibly the app/script does this automatically (because having a 3rd party software remove content from your site sounds great). In effect it's automated DMCAs, which as we've seen are already sloppy and full of issues. Websites have copies of the database (updated regularly). And this is just some pain that web admins deal with.

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[–] sore_ass_losers ago 

Yes, it doesn't even really seem feasible to me. Possibly non-technical-minded bureaucrats; 'there ought to be a law against that'.