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[–] Crikes 0 points 42 points (+42|-0) ago 

Forget college. Stop sending them to government schools.

Separation of school and state.

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[–] RugerLCP_2 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Government spending money on supporting any specific avenue / source of education or speech could actually be seen as an infringement of free speech.

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[–] NonyaBidness 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] bob3333 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Agreed. And stop allowing government-backed student loans for tuition to private schools.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

*for tuition to any schools

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[–] Bananazz 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Takes a while to undo the bullshit also

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[–] Bananazz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The original meaning of scholar was synonymous with leisure. Only those who were well off had the time and leisure to study and learn things that were of no immediate use as far as living was concerned. Now everything is backwards, including what is being taught in "scholastics"

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[–] carlip 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

stop sending your kids. let them work for a few years to gain some resistance to that shit. let them save up money while trying to pay bills. you get conservative pretty damn quick.

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[–] cement 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

People are waking up and realizing how bad in general public indoctrination is getting. If you have white school age kids with friends you would be surprised how many parents are choosing to home school and co-op instead.

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[–] therealsharpie 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Dropped out of college when I realized what was happening. Years later I'm doing way better than my degree holding indoctrinated friends money wise.

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[–] Mechanicalmechanic 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I was the same way until I wanted to break into the business world. Most positions require a 2 year degree minimum for business. So now I am mid 30s and in college, completely resisting the indoctrination.

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[–] Mechanicalmechanic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My wife homeschools our kids for a variety of reasons, indoctrination is one of them. I strongly disagree with police presence in schools combined with "gun free zones." If a parent wishes to send a child to school they are forced to forfeit their right to protect their child while on that campus. The police presence now puts a child at risk of being arrested over school yard antics. The control of children has shifted from parents and educators to police and government. I'm all set with that. We have school in our house, we will do the policing. I am fortunate to live in a state and county that actively supports this parental right. Joining a parent educator association is the first step at protecting this right.

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[–] Hall_of_Cost 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

If I had kids I'd send them to trade school. 2 years, costs less, and gives them actual value. I don't think anyone here will argue that having a plumber, electrician, or civil engineer in the family is worse than having a gender studies wizard in the family.

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[–] fusir 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Having known a civil engineer, that is a college degree, just like eletrical engineering and structural engineering.

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[–] Hall_of_Cost 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I mean surveying and inspecting, not actual bridge design and whatnot. My bad

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[–] Mechanicalmechanic 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Depending on location, you won't have to pay for the tradeschool. My company hire no nothing apprentices for $15 an hour and we pay for them to go to school to learn air conditioning. There is a huge labor shortage in the trades. I've been a trademan since 2004.

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[–] Hall_of_Cost 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Sweet, but were you on Voat 20 hours ago? How?

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[–] Br0sephusMaximus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

As a civil engineer, definitely not a 2 year education. Very valuable education though. People really don't appreciate what it takes to keep a structure from crushing them.

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[–] my_6_gorillion 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Ever applies to a public job? You pretty much need a degree, and be part of the token minority hire plans to even land an interview at this point. These same fucktards then go on to dictate public policy for everyone else. Why is it that not even 50 years ago, degree requirements were very lax, and now you cant even be a fucking janitor without one? Fucking commies in public positions forcing their "everyone must have a degree" bullshit onto the US, regardless of cost. Whilst the old mantra" You cant put a price on education" does ring true, i feel like we're reaching the maximum limit

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[–] Sandmich 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Closing in on that 50 year limit, but the answer to your question is Griggs vs. Duke Power, i.e., the legal ruling that codified the dreaded "disparate racial impact". Before then companies would just give ability tests to applicants, but the Supreme Court said no-no, blacks don't like tests, etc. Thereafter they had to outsource it, in a very sloppy and expensive fashion, to someone who could: colleges.

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[–] RugerLCP_2 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

what is the 50 year limit?

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The problem with education is that it's actually wasted on low IQ people. Everyone could get more bang for their bucks if the truth of IQ was just accepted. Instead the idiots are pushing inclusion to insane levels, by campaigning for putting actually certified mentally retarded kids in the same class as normal ones.

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[–] bagano1 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Ever applies to a public job? You pretty much need a degree

How would you know about that? LOL.

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[–] RoBatten 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

One kid went to college. One kid went to trade school. The college one is basically lost at this point. Big time Clinton supporter (works in DC). Muh diversity is the only qualification for ANYTHING. Open borders with more rights for illegals. Girls with dicks, guys with pussys and general gender confusion are accepted and encouraged. Christ. The trade school kid voted for Trump, owns guns, and is a common-sense person with personal responsibility. There is no talking with the college one about anything outside of generic life stuff. Closed-minded as it gets. The trade school one is willing to listen to different viewpoints and then forms opinions. Also earns more money than the college one.

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[–] digix 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Not entirely sure how to get the college=good idea out of the normie sphere without a total financial collapse for most of them.

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[–] fusir 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Illustrate that other options are good and not just for the dumb kids. If someone for whom college isn't a fit for them can make 100+K a machinist then imagine what it would do for someone when college "is a good fit for them".

I think it can be claimed that it is a smart choice around the board. Then there is no longer a stigma of "why'd you choose that option? Is there something wrong with you?"

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[–] RickFlairWOOOOOO 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

When you stop sending them to public schools first.

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