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[–] Trash_Panda 12 points 4 points (+16|-12) ago  (edited ago)

Plenty of us are felons too lol. I am one and I've talked to a few others on here. If you think a 5 year DoC sentence is reasonable for this crime then you're part of the problem. This kind of shit destroys lives and facilitates permanent criminal behavior. It's not justice in any way shape or form, justice for some is justice for none.

Edit: point out the flaws in the justice system and watch "conservatives" instantly transform into government worshipping advocates of the prison industrial complex. Happens every time.

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[–] Poot_McGarvey 5 points 7 points (+12|-5) ago 

This kind of shit destroys lives and facilitates permanent criminal behavior.

It sounds like you are trying to shift the responsibility away from criminals and on to society. Do you know what facilitates criminal behavior more than punishments? The criminal acts of criminals.

I don't think its worth 5 years but it should certainly be punished. If you've lost your right to legally vote, don't fucking vote.

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[–] SChalice 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

"argued she was never informed of the law that prevents felons from voting"

She claims she didn't know. When you went to school, which class informed you of all the laws on the books? That's right, none.

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[–] Trash_Panda 4 points -4 points (+0|-4) ago  (edited ago)

It sounds like you are trying to shift the responsibility away from criminals and on to society.

It sounds like you're trying to shift responsibility from the government and solely onto the individual, even though you admit there is injustice on their part.

I don't think its worth 5 years but it should certainly be punished. If you've lost your right to legally vote, don't fucking vote.

I agree but it's not like she tried to buy a gun or something. The punishment should fit the crime. Voting lost its relevancy when every man and woman was given the right to vote anyways. It used to be restricted to people who have a stake in the game like land owners and business owners. I think people who serve in the military would've been a nice addition but as it stands now, Shaniqua Johnson and her 12 kids outnumber a dignified scholar who does his research instead of wanting more gimmedats for hair extensions.

Point being it's not that big of a deal anymore.

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[–] Glory_Beckons 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Hey guys, I'm a felon. Now let me lecture you on the meaning of justice and explain why you are the problem.

Gotta say, that's pretty ironic. Kind of like when that whore and that faggot decided to get on TV to lecture everyone on morality.

I'd be curious what exactly you did to earn that status but, short of being wrongfully convicted or being the victim of some serious legal bullshit, I can't really think of anything that would make this reasonable.

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[–] Trash_Panda 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I never said that. I said if you think a 5 year DoC sentence is reasonable for this crime then you're part of the problem. I guess my opinion that I've had my entire life is suddenly invalid because I committed a crime? I'm not allowed to engage in philosophy or justice because I messed up once?

I'd be curious what exactly you did to earn that status but, short of being wrongfully convicted or being the victim of some serious legal bullshit, I can't really think of anything that would make this reasonable.

It's in my comment history if you are curious

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[–] weezkitty 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

I detest the concept of felons having their rights removed because if basically removes their ability to affect the laws that put them in that position. Even if the laws are completely unjust

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[–] PewterKey 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

It's counter to democracy to remove rights from those that served their sentences. As it creates a 2nd class body that are voiceless and motivated to destroy the status quo violently. An unjust law and an outright tyrannical or corrupt government of any size could effectively remove only votes that oppose them. Leaving the disenfranchised the only option of revolution.

And given the number of felons in America (6M or 2.5% of America), this population of disenfranchised felons could literally disrupt the entire country or even destroy it if they were mildly coordinated. We already have seen how BLM shut down entire cities in riots with a few hundred. We've seen how 2 terrorists shut down Boston. And America is literally sitting on 6 million people with a reason to rebel. Not to mention the tens of million non-citizens that could rally to that cause.

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[–] CaliforniaOrange 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

What did you get a felony for?

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[–] Trash_Panda 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I hit my friend with a guitar and caused minor injuries, they even tried to have the doctor classify it as serious bodily injury and the doctor said the injuries didn't qualify. I have no prior history, I was charged with three felonies of assault and two misdemeanors which carried a sentence of 5 years each, which was then reduced to felony menacing and misdemeanor assault as a condition of plea. I served no prison time. This is considered a "light" sentence.