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[–] Caesarkid1 1 points 34 points (+35|-1) ago 

What was the slave to human ratio again? I bet California would quit bitching if we said that could apply to the illegal slaves they are mastering,

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[–] Oh_Well_ian [S] 1 points 74 points (+75|-1) ago  (edited ago)

California has been counting illegals in the Census for decades. It gives them more seats in Congress, more electoral votes and more federal funding.

IT'S A SCAM on multiple fronts.

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[–] Caesarkid1 1 points 20 points (+21|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah I'm tired of this shit TBH. I mean they have way too many votes over there in California. It would be nice to see how many fall off when this shit hits the fan. I doubt the illegals would be honest though, I mean the politicians have 2 years to create government funded facilities to ease the preparation of census questionnaires for the "underprivileged".

Yeah illegals have no privilege. They should just be outlawed in the old English tradition where they have no rights and no expectation of safe travel and all of their worldly possessions are forfeit.

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[–] NeedleStack 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Yes, I was just about to comment on the federal funding bit. That's the mean reason why the Dems are up in arms about this. That and votes. But the cut in funding will hurt all these huge (and largely Democratic) cities. Delicious.

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[–] Tacodeuce 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Holy shit, I never knew this, what a dirty scam. The figures I looked up estimate 18.5 million non-us citizens counted in the last consensus. How many seats would California lose with this taken into account?

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[–] eurekared 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Think about it this way; It might be challenging, but bare with me here:

If you have more people, you HAVE MORE PEOPLE.

Also, who tf cares about how many electoral votes there are? It's not like us regular citizens have a fucking say in who's president.

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[–] Cat-hax 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Good point jews "hire" illegals to be care takers for them and thier houses.

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[–] CowWithBeef 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Defining illegal employment as a form of slavery would be pretty effective. What are you pro slavery?

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[–] strange_69 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Dems are going to Dem.

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[–] speedisavirus 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

What's interesting is that if it doesn't come with compulsory proof the illegals will just lie anyway.

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[–] Oh_Well_ian [S] 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

I think the recent ICE crackdown is intended to dissuade illegals from putting their names on any official paperwork or talking to government representatives.

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[–] Pattern_Blind 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

You both have good points, I was thinking about this isssue myself. There is no fine for lying on the Census, I suspect California, Jew York and other democratic shit holes will just inform their census counters to lie or ignore that question. Along with having a public awarness campaign about how it is ok to lie on the form due to racists who hate illegals.

Still it shows Trump is going to try to tackle this issue in many ways and start closing up some loop holes, like all the extra money and votes the democratic shit holes in America for their illegal slave populations.

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[–] Narow_Foe_Minsk 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There are various ways to confirm citizenship. And no matter what the illegals do, it's a win for Whites. They have four options: don't fill out a census, fill it out and skip the citizen block, check no, or lie and check yes.

If they don't submit a form, the state loses congress seats and federal funding, and feds can identify occupied residencies without associated forms and visit them on probable cause. If they skip the citizen block, the form is invalid and not counted, and again the feds have probable cause to come knocking. If they check no, the feds cross reference their information against the legal resident alien database, and if they don't pop up then ICE comes asking questions.

The hardest is if they lie and check yes. They'll have to cross reference their information against several databases (driver's license, selective service, tax records, place of birth, etc.) to get probable cause, and with all the legal citizens saying yes as they should, this will complicate things. The feds can focus on forms coming from certain states, but that's still a lot of documents to comb through. It can be automated to an extent to make things easier. Even easier would be to require some proof in your form, such as a federal identification card or birth certificate.

We should poison their wells by tricking leftist citizens into marking no or refusing to fill out a census form or mark the citizenship block. If it works, we could effectively remove leftist influence from congress. Then we just have to weed out all the neo-cons and kikes wearing red ties.

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[–] ILoveBeingHuman 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I don't understand why the citizenship question was removed in the first place. It never should have been. It seems like a very important thing to know the number of citizens in your own country. Non-citizens should not be included in a total count which helps determine representation in Congress and allocation of federal funds. Federal funds = OUR money. $7,142 of it this year is MY money that the government forced me to give to them. Since I have to give it to them I'd like it very much if it went only to the operation of the government, within the bounds of the Constitution, and only to aid CITIZENS of this nation if it must be allocated to the various welfare programs.

California will lose this fight. The citizenship question will be on the census. It was there before and there's no legal reason why it can't be there again. California needs to stop expecting the rest of the country to change their massive diaper full of all the shit they've brought on themselves.

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[–] BlackSheepBrouhaha 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You do want a census of non citizens. I want to know how many there are and where they come from so we can send an invoice to their home nations for the costs they bring.

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[–] eurekared 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not including non-citizens is plain stupid. It's like standing too close to an elephant.

For the record, I think it should be on there again. It is (in some form) on most non-shithole countries.

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[–] bilog78 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

I don't understand why the citizenship question was removed in the first place.

Probably because it's meaningless, as there's no way to check the truthness of the reply?

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[–] Tromso 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

California will probably lose about thirty congressional seats after the census

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[–] olltre 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

they say we could have more then 3 million illegals in LA alone, thats three times as many people as the state of rhode island...insane from illegals in one city alone it could potentially give us 3 times the representation of an entire state

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[–] Caveman_in_a_suit 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I believe the article said 3

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[–] Deflo56 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Good question to get people on paper lying.

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[–] Approved 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor, but lying on the cencus is a felony.

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[–] bilog78 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Every time something like this gets proposed (anywhere around the world) I'm always curious about the accruacy they'd get (in a statistical sense, i.e. considering the ratio of false positives and negatives to true positives and negatives).

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[–] bilog78 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well, the impact of the census is pretty well known, since it's the basis for a wide range of federal-level decisions spanning from funding to congressional seats. And it doesn't really take a high IQ to understand that it's still better to fake it and mess the numbers up. Sure enough, we can probably expect all citizens and many legal immigrants to reply faithfully, but what exactly prevents the illegals from checking the “citizen” box?

Sure, you may want to make it harder to cheat, and rather than just asking about your citizenship you ask a civic question, but then you run the risk of citizens not actually being able to reply correctly, particularly in the less educated areas, without necessarily helping you much in detecting illegals anyway.

Or am I missing something?

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[–] yvj 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's anonymous

The census is not anonymous. The government just promises to keep individual census records confidential for 72 years except when it changes its mind.

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[–] bareknuckledragon 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Accuracy and facts are racist fuccboi

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[–] bilog78 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm sorry, I fail to see the relevance of your comment to mine, could you explain?

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[–] Scapeity 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Clinton had same question in the 90s.

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[–] 12311385? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Anyone have the actual wording of the question? All I'm finding is "question about immigration status" which is next to useless imo.

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