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[–] HAESisalie 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Yes, we understood and considered all of that, and perfectly understood it was a TOTAL CYA move on the part of our Sgt. and Capt. So that if something went bad, and an innocent kid got shot by one of us, they would be covered because they had told us not to go in. Whereas if we went in and saved the day, there would be no problem from them. We still decided we would go in, despite the risks, and despite the fog of war and not really having all the intel of what we were facing. Waiting for that to become all clear would be waiting for the body count to rise to completely unacceptable levels. Bodies of people we were paid to protect.

I did not second guess, or Monday morning quarterback anyone here. I simple stated what my Team's perspective was. If somebody with a badge and a duty to protect feels comfortable hiding somewhere while kids are being killed, that is on them. They can be judged after an appropriate investigation is done, and not by me from the safety of my keyboard. I do appreciate your perspective, and do not disagree with any of it.

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[–] midnightblue1335 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thanks for respectful reply. It may seem like I'm defending the cowardice of the officers who are stationed specifically at the school- that's not my stance at all. That's the guy whose job it is to rush in there and do something at the moment of contact. The police are a bit different, they need to approach these scenarios with as much organization and prep as possible. But if your job is to physically protect a certain group from harm, that's your ass, get in there.

I'm also in the camp of "early and decisive engagement". You don't need a SWAT team to take out a teenager with a rifle hopped up on SSRIs. 4 cops with rifles could do the job much quicker if they had contingencies in place. This would require new training methods... like I said, it's a fucking mess. The right thing to do is run in there and give your life for the children- I don't think anyone can argue against that. But the other variables such as accidentally shooting the wrong kids shouldn't be ignored.

Do you have any idea why people are so rabidly attacking the police for this particular case? Look at all of the other big school shooting events. Columbine is the prime example, but let's give them their excuse of "we weren't trained for that, but we've restructured our response so we'll be ready next time!" At every school shooting event, there is always an officer who arrives first or was already on scene and could make the decision to nut up and disobey orders and go in there. But they don't do it, EVER. This is seen by the public as incompetence, and for some reason this incident is REALLY bringing the heat.