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[–] polkadotgirl 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

What people don't realize if they have done stuff like this in the past, there is no doubt some deeper shit is happening today.

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[–] faissaloo 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

Hence why I don't understand why people crap on conspiracy theorists so much

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[–] Bitchrod 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I have a conspiracy theory about that; we're conditioned to scoff at conspiracy theorists so that if anyone does stumble on the truth, 'they' can just say 'look at this loco motherfucker, probably thinks snakeheaded aliens run the oil business', etc.

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[–] 0fsgivin 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Guesse who coined the term "conspiracy theorist". The CIA.

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[–] Poliorcetes 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"Conspiracy theory" is a term that has its place, but it's no doubt overapplied. Seymour Hersh's article on the death of bin Laden also garnered the appellation of "conspiracy theory" somewhat recently. Basically, the phrase ends up being applied to anything and everything outside the mainstream, sanctioned interpretation of events, from the "aliens are controlling our minds via fluoride" theory to the theory that the US government is monitoring nearly all of our communications... which ended up being true.

Even pre-Snowden, there was evidence enough for the latter to be plausible, but it was deemed a conspiracy theory anyway by the usual establishment sources, and most people tended to conform their own beliefs with those sources so that they didn't seem like those crazy conspiracy theorists.

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[–] Andman17 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's cause the state rewards the public for making them out to be crazy. Especially when they're onto something!

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[–] MedicalMountainGoat 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I remember seeing a post on reddit a few years ago about the gov releasing a mildly carcinogenic agent on the muni trains in San Francisco over a week or month long period, it included some photos of the 'notice to the public'. The claim was that they were doing it to simulate a biological attack. I didn't really buy into it until I was taking muni and saw those same notices posted up at two different stations in fairly visible areas. Ive searched online since then to try to find any trace of info regarding that, but it seems to have all disappeared. I really wish I had saved that post. Anyways, you are spot on about them still conducting batshit crazy experiments on people.

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[–] Super-Script 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

go deeper down the rabbit hole. perhaps the pharmaceutical industry regularly seeds the populous with the flu and other diseases in order to sell their vaccines to local governments.

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[–] Oriumpor 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

As long as those who are impacted negatively are a minority of the population there's little argument against it from a beurocratic standpoint.

They're essentially immune from prosecution and they don't have to tell anyone they did it (hell they can't without going to prison since its classified.).

It's a huge fuckup from an incentive standpoint.

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[–] Maxcactus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes, you are right. Scientists already have figured out all that they need to know about disseminating diseases. Now they are looking at how we communicate on the Internet. We can well expect that patterns of contact and habits are logged away in our files. In the early days of the twentieth century advertisers were figuring out how to manipulate us by ads. Today a lot of that is is being on social media sites. People tend to follow the herd. How hard would it be to game the system by creating the appearance of widespread support for something. Who was it that said that if you tell a lie long enough people will begin to believe it. It was someone before Fox News but they picked up on it too.

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[–] bruken 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Who was it that said that if you tell a lie long enough people will begin to believe it.

It's not really a quote, but it has been condensed down to the sentiment you allude to. The concept "Big Lie" is first explored in Mein Kampf by Hitler. He talk about it when accusing the jews for blaming a certain German officer for the loss of WWI.

... All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.

Later Joseph Goebbels uses a more succinct version to criticize the United Kingdom during WWII.

The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

And then, as you said, Fox News picked up on it.

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[–] OmegaVoat 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

The fact that a court can outright say the government is immune to certain laws is pure bullshit.

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[–] Materous 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I know such bull the government is immune to negligence? They were justified unauthorized biological testing? I hope that judge got a big check from the government for screwing us so hard, screw him that's a dangerous precedent to be setting. What happened to everyone is held equally accountable under the law, I know it didn't apply equally but you should hope our government would set a good example.

Geez this has me heated how have I never heard this story before? This should be made common knowledge !! And what if that bacteria mutated or something to something harmful that's like hundreds of thousands dead or if people had an allergy. Irresponsible, simply irresponsible and they refuse to make good? God makes me want to move to another country.

God bless the usa because no one else will

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Sovereign immunity covers a lot of things unless they're explicitly permitted to sue. That typically means the DOD is the final arbiter of what's necessary for national defense.

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[–] fluffingtonthefifth 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

This explains San Francisco.

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[–] BillCo 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I thought the article was going to say that San Francisco is where they tested the Gay Bomb.

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[–] Super-Script 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Is that a jab at the gays? are you implying that the large gay community of San Francisco is the result of government biological tests of the Cold War?

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[–] Goatinaboat 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

No you nimrod, it's just ragged on for being a crazy place!

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[–] fluffingtonthefifth 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It was a jab at the aposematistic PoCo that call it home.

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[–] woofWOOFwoof 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Mildly unrelated, but why on earth is this in Yahoo's finance section? It's certainly chilling and something conspiracy theorists would love.

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[–] Super-Script 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Editors bury the story. The editors allow the writer to write it to keep him/her happy, but buries the story so few will read it.

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[–] RedditSucksNow 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Don't they know how links work?

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[–] MarkKB 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Pretty sure it's just that it's a repost from Business Insider, which is a financial news website.

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[–] jobes 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

"Nevin's grandson tried to sue the government for wrongful death, but the court held that the government was immune to a lawsuit for negligence and that they were justified in conducting tests without subjects' knowledge. "

What the fucking fuck. Our government knowingly used biological weapons upon entire cities in our own country, and the courts rule that this is ok? This was over half a century ago...what are we being subject to today?

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[–] Super-Script 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Who do you think the courts work for?

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[–] ineedbettername 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

"Can I appeal this decision?"

"Sure, but I tend to agree with myself pretty quickly."

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[–] BelligerentVassal 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

That is deeply disturbing but somehow not surprising. Just the other week the illegal cellphone recording by the NSA was allowed to continue, so the government knows it's illegal but doesn't care because who will hold them responsible?

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[–] tinfoil_hats 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The worst part is the court's ruling. In what world is anyone "justified in conducting tests without subjects' knowledge"

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