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[–] 1HepCat 1 point 40 points (+41|-1) ago 

"Basically it wipes out due process rights for employees"

You have the right to due process when you're being charged with a crime. You do not have the right to due process when your job performance is being evaluated. Further, no one has a right to a government contract. If you have a government job, you serve at the pleasure of 'we the people' and shouldn't expect any more guarantees than you'd find in the private sector. Ideally, bureaucrats should fully expect to be looking for new work whenever the political winds and whims change.

New competitors can enter an industry within the private sector any time. Surely public sector workers can handle competing for their positions once each election cycle.

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[–] heretolearn 1 point 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

so no more life long appointed supreme court justices? and 40 year career politicians? cause that would go a long way towards improving this country.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

dictatorrrr!!! ahhhh!!!!! impeachhh!!!

/s

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[–] Pessimist 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

"If you have a government job, you serve at the pleasure of 'we the people'" I wish this were true, but I'm afraid it's not. These are often unionized employees, and there is such a thing as labor law and contracts.

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[–] 1HepCat 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

If anyone else is curious: http://employment.findlaw.com/wages-and-benefits/how-does-due-process-protect-a-public-employee.html

I still disagree that it should be referred to as a 'right' although maybe that's just shorthand for 'contractually entitled'. The difference being that they can easily satisfy existing contracts by documenting every miniscule grievance, non-renewal and/or buying out any that are largely completed; whereas a right would have to be recognized and upheld lest the moral legitimacy of the government fail giving rise to a violent but just revolution (inconceivable, I know).

It also sounds like this may be referring to the concept of 'substantive' due process which Wikipedia calls "a matter of scholarly as well as judicial discussion and dissent".

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[–] prairie 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Due process is you being one of the most useful employees. The appeal process is bettering yourself then finding another job.

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[–] TheStapler 3 points 12 points (+15|-3) ago 

lol bye, fat niggers.

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[–] 11888631? 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

"Discriminate against women and minorities" Meaning people who are good at their jobs get rewarded and those who aren't are punished.

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[–] Apathy 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It's funny how they walk this path on both sides of the line. On the one hand, they know "minorities" and women perform worse in a meritocracy, but they would go apeshit if you ask them to explain how minorities and women are targeted in a meritocracy.

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[–] madmardigan 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hold on a sec. They actual wrote that sentence?!?!

If we look at sentence structure the author is basically saying the opposite of loyalty is being a woman or minority.

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[–] GutterTrash 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This is a product of the best they have to offer.

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[–] derram 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

https://archive.fo/zC1qk :

Trump to propose biggest civil service reform effort in 40 years

'"Optimism is not my middle name, especially when it comes to the civil service," he said. '

'WASHINGTON — President Trump will seek to "hire the best and fire the worst" federal government employees under the most ambitious proposal to overhaul the civil service in 40 years, officials said. '

'Under the current system, federal employees get a review every one to three years. '

'Since President Jimmy Carter signed the Civil Service Reform Act in 1978, every president has tried — to some degree or another — to promote greater efficiency in the federal workforce. ', "More: Trump says he's trying to 'reduce size of government' — but he's really notBut even champions of reform are skeptical it will happen."


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[–] senpaithatignoresyou 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

God, the democrats just keep losing. There goes the guberment union pay. this pretty much has castrated the federal union.

This is no longer 4d chess, but some bastard hybrid game of go+chess he pretends to fight the democrats on one front, but then raids them on another unexpected front.

Meanwhile the DNC is dead broke, and won't have money to run for the midterm elections, much less 2020.

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[–] Herpfree93 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

thinking long gym only government incompetence has shielded us from government malice. sure as hell hadn't been the lap/rabid dog media

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