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It poses as education, yet offers gender reassignment, tyrannizes parents, rotten to the core, LGBT studies, identity politics, safe spaces, group think, feelings and multiculturalism. Missing are critical thinking, reading, writing, math, science and art.
"Oh hey, kids are more likely to find something amazing by being idiot lemmings that will try literally anything if left unsupervised. Given an infinite number of kids and infinite time, every creative thing ever will totally happen."
Why do you pray for a nuclear holocaust? Are you very picky? Would you be happy if an asteroid destroyed civilization? How about a plague? An alien invasion seems like it would be entertaining, with the sci-fi element and all.
I do agree with the first part of your comment. Of course, some kids are smart and some are too dumb to create anything but poop.
Agreed. Education for the most part is reading, writing and mathematics.
Reading and writing require certain rules to be followed else we end up retarded sturcture lanwidge nd cant ppl nderstand wat u r seyin
Maths just outright rules out some creative solutions due to logic getting in the way of fantasy.
The only thing i think schools need to keep their noses out of is culture (promoting one over another) and historical interpretation (the holohoax etc). The only indoctrination i experienced at highschool was in social studies, which covered history and introduced me to the holohoax -_-
This just seems like some pointless finger pointing to me, no doubt things could be better but this is hardly productive.
Also, leaving schooling entirely up to the school is a big problem here, if parents arent parenting, which INVOLVES teaching, then its THEM that are failing the children, not the teachers.
I guess using nuclear power to exterminate jews is as good a way as any.
But seriously, the upvote to downvote ratio on this is terrible and a few of these comments here actually terrify me and beckon me to leave this site never to return.
There are a fucktonne of crackpots and misfits who've left their kids out of the educational system, and they aren't all growing up to become Musks or Newtons or Beethovens, the trend is actually in the other direction, towards alienation, detachment, general crackpottery.
while i get it and school eventually becaomes indoctronation. little kids are like totally wasted people, you have to watch them constantly or they will climb on the counter tops and play with knives. little boys break everything to see how they work and little girls have no problem using mommys lipstick to draw smiley faces on walls.
and they fight and steal and lie. they have to have morals and discipline instilled in them or they will wind up like africans. i mean,they have to learn how to read and do basic math. you cant do that by letting them do anything they want in the name of creativity.
Schools give children the tools to carry out their creativity, when kids realize that their creative endeavours are impractical, they rethink things and ground their thoughts in reality, doesnt make them less creative, they just know what will and wont work. Give one of those creative kids a bunch of tools and tell them to make the creative thing they thought of and they will get nowhere.
Where i live we have charter schools where some just leave everything up to the kids to sort out and learn at their own pace, my fiance had to teach one of them who transferred to her school and the kid was fucking useless, couldnt read, write, count or do anything, alot of use that creativity is when they cant even count.
indeed, what basis are they using for creative genius? from what im going to assume, creative genius to these people are impractical solutions that fix nothing, then education slowly teaches them why having marshmallow paved roads is a bad thing they stop coming up with these 'creative' ideas and instead think more along the lines of paving the roads with something robust, durable and cheap.
Without knowing what they use to qualify creative genius as, you cant say whether reducing 'creative geniuses' is a good or a bad thing, hell using my example, it could be the best thing to happen for them
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One of the few TED talks i ever liked is Ken Robinson making a compelling case for how schools are killing creativity. The best 11m41sec video that nails it in many ways.
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U
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[–] tendiesonfloor 1 point 41 points 42 points (+42|-1) ago
We don't have an education system. We have an indoctrination system.
[–] CaliforniaOrange 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
Abolish the department of education, leave educating and the curriculum up to the state and local levels.
[–] vastrightwing 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
It poses as education, yet offers gender reassignment, tyrannizes parents, rotten to the core, LGBT studies, identity politics, safe spaces, group think, feelings and multiculturalism. Missing are critical thinking, reading, writing, math, science and art.
[–] greenfascist 2 points 17 points 19 points (+19|-2) ago
false. Kids are not creative geniuses. They have active imaginations.
Do not conflate the two. They are related, but not the same.
Kids do not have the depth of knowledge acquired through years of experience to be creative geniuses.
I can't believe I even have to type these sentences. I pray for a nuclear holocaust every day.
[–] Crensch 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
"Oh hey, kids are more likely to find something amazing by being idiot lemmings that will try literally anything if left unsupervised. Given an infinite number of kids and infinite time, every creative thing ever will totally happen."
[–] KarateCowboy 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Exactly.
"Sing a magic song that summons a flying elephant fairy to bring food to the poor people!" -- very creative. Not at all practical.
[–] NeoGoat ago
Why do you pray for a nuclear holocaust? Are you very picky? Would you be happy if an asteroid destroyed civilization? How about a plague? An alien invasion seems like it would be entertaining, with the sci-fi element and all.
I do agree with the first part of your comment. Of course, some kids are smart and some are too dumb to create anything but poop.
[–] mudbear ago
Agreed. Education for the most part is reading, writing and mathematics. Reading and writing require certain rules to be followed else we end up retarded sturcture lanwidge nd cant ppl nderstand wat u r seyin Maths just outright rules out some creative solutions due to logic getting in the way of fantasy. The only thing i think schools need to keep their noses out of is culture (promoting one over another) and historical interpretation (the holohoax etc). The only indoctrination i experienced at highschool was in social studies, which covered history and introduced me to the holohoax -_-
This just seems like some pointless finger pointing to me, no doubt things could be better but this is hardly productive. Also, leaving schooling entirely up to the school is a big problem here, if parents arent parenting, which INVOLVES teaching, then its THEM that are failing the children, not the teachers.
[–] HuginnOgMuninn ago
I guess using nuclear power to exterminate jews is as good a way as any.
But seriously, the upvote to downvote ratio on this is terrible and a few of these comments here actually terrify me and beckon me to leave this site never to return.
There are a fucktonne of crackpots and misfits who've left their kids out of the educational system, and they aren't all growing up to become Musks or Newtons or Beethovens, the trend is actually in the other direction, towards alienation, detachment, general crackpottery.
[–] Cheesebooger 2 points 13 points 15 points (+15|-2) ago
Jews cant stand the thought of whites being at their full potential.
[–] Morbo 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Whites at their full potential would mean extinction of the joos, so yeah they can't stand the thought.
[–] bourbonexpert 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
while i get it and school eventually becaomes indoctronation. little kids are like totally wasted people, you have to watch them constantly or they will climb on the counter tops and play with knives. little boys break everything to see how they work and little girls have no problem using mommys lipstick to draw smiley faces on walls.
and they fight and steal and lie. they have to have morals and discipline instilled in them or they will wind up like africans. i mean,they have to learn how to read and do basic math. you cant do that by letting them do anything they want in the name of creativity.
[–] firex726 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Add to that you need involved parents.
[–] mudbear 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Schools give children the tools to carry out their creativity, when kids realize that their creative endeavours are impractical, they rethink things and ground their thoughts in reality, doesnt make them less creative, they just know what will and wont work. Give one of those creative kids a bunch of tools and tell them to make the creative thing they thought of and they will get nowhere.
Where i live we have charter schools where some just leave everything up to the kids to sort out and learn at their own pace, my fiance had to teach one of them who transferred to her school and the kid was fucking useless, couldnt read, write, count or do anything, alot of use that creativity is when they cant even count.
[–] bourbonexpert ago
That reminds me of a conversation I had. He was a cashier at a ghetto party store.
He was telling me at least 20% mumbled or spoke so poorly they couldn’t get the service they wanted, then they would get mad.
Imagine being a doctor and dealing with that? Detroit has a 80% dropout rate. And 51% of the blacks are functionally illiterate.
[–] RickC-137 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
I like how they don't talk about the methods used at all.
[–] mudbear 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
indeed, what basis are they using for creative genius? from what im going to assume, creative genius to these people are impractical solutions that fix nothing, then education slowly teaches them why having marshmallow paved roads is a bad thing they stop coming up with these 'creative' ideas and instead think more along the lines of paving the roads with something robust, durable and cheap.
Without knowing what they use to qualify creative genius as, you cant say whether reducing 'creative geniuses' is a good or a bad thing, hell using my example, it could be the best thing to happen for them
[–] 11836825? 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Homeschool.
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[–] KarateCowboy 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Studies show people will buy into anything as long as you preface it with "studies show".
[–] mostlyfriendly 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Why not both? :(
[–] ZardoZ2017 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
One of the few TED talks i ever liked is Ken Robinson making a compelling case for how schools are killing creativity. The best 11m41sec video that nails it in many ways. https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U
[–] Wonder_Boy 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Came here to share this. Well done.