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[–] Lordbananafist 1 points 29 points (+30|-1) ago 

Yea that's a defense mechanism... get on both sides of an issue and subvert the winner.

Jewish mitosis

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[–] novictim 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

You nailed it. This is blatant propaganda.

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[–] AnarchicAlpaca 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Ben Shapiro

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[–] The_Tinamou 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly. Full spectrum control. This is how they infiltrate.

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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

get on both sides of an issue and subvert the winner

How does it relate to the contents of the video?

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[–] Lordbananafist 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

implied within the idea of a multicultural israel is the notion that israel must therefore exist to become multicultural at some point in the future. this is propaganda. Saying "young american jews" are being subverted to the "other side" is not a genuine statement because both sides espouse the ongoing existence of israel.

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[–] Whitworth 1 points 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

Hello, fellow alt-right

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[–] 7e62ce85 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Look at his giant smirk as he says Israel isn't a good idea.

Same smirk I got from bureaucrats in family court.

Israel is a great fucking idea, send all the Jews there just like Hitler was doing before WWII.

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[–] Cheesebooger 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Israel is a terrible idea. Send jews back to Ukraine(Khazaria). America should've never had to pay to keep Israel afloat. Its bullshit welfare. All that money must be paid back to the American people.

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[–] Shekelstein6M 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Send all the jews to israel, wall it up, take away their nukes and import tens of millions of male niggers. Problem solved.

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[–] Lordbananafist 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Why do none of you pussies actually want to make a war on them...

Oooooo deport deport I don't want to get dirty

What the fuck did Ukraine do to deserve a mass importation of Jews?

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[–] 7e62ce85 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Send them back AND stop paying of course. Why do you want to destroy Ukraine?

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[–] Sullysq 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why send them to such a fertile land? Send them back to the desert where they were first expelled to. Then it won't take so many bullets to deal with them, but just one instant glass factory.

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[–] foltaisaprovenshill 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

As long as we can nuke it when they all get there, it's a great idea.

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[–] novictim 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago  (edited ago)

This sounds like propaganda meant to shift the conversation from being about whether Israel can have moral credibility as a Jewish state to the notion that saying Israel cannot have that identity is an "Alt Right" position.

First, is there really such a monolith as the "Alt Right"? NO.

Second, is being against Israel's ethno state nature a particularly "Alt-Right" position even when that same anti-ethno-state position is the Leftist/Communist position? No.

NEXT!

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[–] WEHRMACHT_BITCHES_AT 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Is the Alt Right a monolith? No and it shouldn't be. That doesn't mean it can't help us for our enemies to think we are...

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[–] novictim 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I get you but I don't think that the purveyors of this rhetoric "Alt Right" even believe in the term.

The term's purpose is to cause "Normies"/everyday citizens to fear that term's application to themselves, an association which connotes not just nationalist and populist groups but "Racist", "Anti-Semitic", "Bigoted" beliefs all of which signify a form of egregious unfairness and an un-American ideological position.

I'm a nationalist and populist. I love those terms and own them. But am I this mythical "Alt-Right"? No, that term is just a tool box adopted by the Left to smear people who want to save the West.

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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This sounds like propaganda meant to shift the conversation from being about whether Israel can have moral credibility as a Jewish state to the notion that saying Israel cannot have that identity is an "Alt Right" position.

How did you possibly derive that from the video?

First, is there really such a monolith as the "Alt Right"? NO.

Nothing being discussed is predicated on the alt-right being a monolith.

Second, is being against Israel's ethno state nature a particularly "Alt-Right" position even when that same anti-ethno-state position is the Leftist/Communist position? No.

They are are saying that American Jews are reacting to the alt-right's call for European ethnostates with increased discomfort about how they themselves (young American Jews) feel about ethnostates generally and Israel in particular.

Furthermore, I am doubting whether you watched the video. You questioning whether being against Israel's ethnostate is an alt-right position is bizarre since they explicitly reference Spencer who discusses understanding the impulse Jews have to an ethnostate. Spender isn't opposed to the principle of a Jewish ethnostate. There is an on going debate in alt-right thought on whether to support the principle of ethnostates across the board or remain solely focused on white tribal pragmatism.

when that same anti-ethno-state position is the Leftist/Communist position? No.

No, the leftist opposition to ethnostates is based on neo-marxist analysis of power structures and the hidden systemic violence latent in nationalism generally. Their criticism has nothing to do with alt-right positions on ethnostates generally or as pertaining to Israel in particular.

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[–] novictim 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think, now, that I got the wrong first impression! Thanks. But...

Nothing being discussed is predicated on the alt-right being a monolith.

Alt right is a name meant to concoct the impression of a monolith. The term is meant to collectivize people into this monolith so that arguments can be boiled down to "You are racist!".

You questioning whether being against Israel's ethnostate is an alt-right position is bizarre since they explicitly reference Spencer who discusses understanding the impulse Jews have to an ethnostate.

There are several layers going on here. There is the topic. There is the Studio discussion. And then there is the Red Ice discussion of the studio discussion. From those layers come a whole shitload of contradictions, so much so that when I listen to this again I cannot ferret out, now, my gut first impression.

You clearly hear the Red Ice team acknowledging that this "Alt Right" rejects Israel but then it is acknowledged that Spencer supports Israel.

So which "Alt Right" are we, the audience, to focus on?

the leftist opposition to ethnostates is based on neo-marxist analysis

Correct and something I am constantly aware of when I watch the MSM which is filled with these fuckers.

Their criticism has nothing to do with alt-right positions on ethnostates generally or as pertaining to Israel in particular.

That I disagree with. The Anti-Nationaist agenda of the NeoMarxists is in direct and explicit opposition the notion of the idea of a sovereign state, and even more vociferous in their opposition to the idea of an "Ethno-State" and that is why the Left lost votes/credibility in Israel almost two decades ago with the spate of Muslim suicide attacks. Peace did not work but the Wall did. Ethno Nationalism proved itself to be the way forward and that came in the wake of Leftist collapse.

That was much too much time on this!

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[–] selpai 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago  (edited ago)

As they should.

You know... minus the Alt-right label. I'm not sure you're helping anyone by perpetuating the term.

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[–] DeadFox 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What should we call it then?

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[–] greenfascist 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

dont call it anything.

just support your tribe without saying anything. It's pretty easy.

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[–] undertheshills 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Fed up white people

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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

What do you mean perpetuating the term? It has been around since '08 and then shortened in '10 being self-applied by far-right thinkers.

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[–] Drunkenmoba 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This is the first step in trying to make the younger generation not fear their same age group of Jews.

First they start with being 'of the same mind' and going along before they get accepted as they are... then the subversion continues.

Fuck. That. Noise.

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[–] Men13 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Bullshit. They are being subverted by Soros and his J-Street PAC, and the new Israel fund he created.

Sorry actively fights against Israel the same as he does against Europeans and Americans.

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[–] Schreiber 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yep.

Not many people gets it though.

The world is controlled by Soros and other globalist banker. Israel is just a sand castle somewhere insignificant and nowhere close as powerful to challenge the globalist banker hegemony.

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[–] fudencio 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Gotcha!

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