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[–] 11551776? 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Psychiatrists and Psychologists have a rule against diagnosing people like this, it's called the Goldwater rule.

The Goldwater rule is the informal name given to Section 7 in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics that states it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures they have not examined[further explanation needed] in person, and from whom they have not obtained consent to discuss their mental health in public statements.

In March 14, 2016, the American Psychological Association (different from Psychiatric Association) wrote this response to an article discussing whether we should speculate about Trump's mental health:

The American Psychological Association wholeheartedly agrees with Dr. Robert Klitzman that neither psychiatrists nor psychologists should offer diagnoses of candidates or any other living public figure they have never examined. Our association has declined requests from several reporters seeking referrals to psychologists who would make such speculations.

Similar to the psychiatrists' Goldwater Rule, our code of ethics exhorts psychologists to "take precautions" that any statements they make to the media "are based on their professional knowledge, training or experience in accord with appropriate psychological literature and practice" and "do not indicate that a professional relationship has been established" with people in the public eye, including political candidates.

When providing opinions of psychological characteristics, psychologists must conduct an examination "adequate to support statements or conclusions." In other words, our ethical code states that psychologists should not offer a diagnosis in the media of a living public figure they have not examined.

If I started calling out trannies on TV as being mentally ill degenerates then I would expect the media to attack me and quote the above sources. They never did this when it came to Trump however. More hypocritical bullshit from the left and the media.

Unfortunately, like everything, there are liberal morons and degenerates infesting the psychology fields - hence why we have such rampant acceptance and encouragement of 'transgender' people who should be treated for their mental illness, not encouraged into mutilation and delusion.

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[–] MensAgitatMolem 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Also, I would't doubt some of these Psychologists are just BA holders and unqualified to diagnose anyone.

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[–] WickedVocalist 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Does this also apply to the brigade of people claiming to perform mental health outreach here on the Voat comments section? I should think that rule needs a digital upgrade to reality - too many students and newer professionals do think they can 'diagnose' people right here using only their social media profiles and an online comment history. SOURCE: My inbox.

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

What are they thinking? Do the imagine Trump is their patient? Do they imagine they can diagnose over the TV.?

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[–] KikeFree 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

They are just doing what they normally do, which is nothing. Their whole profession boils down to reading a small paperback book, prescribing whatever drugs the drug companies are pushing in return for all expenses paid vacations in the guise of work related conferences, and telling people to wire their captive patients nuts up to a transformer.

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[–] phareoct 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Can confirm. Psychology professor told us about a book they use that they match what they think are symptoms to what entries in this textbook and prescribe the provided solution that the textbook says will work.

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[–] Browngaijin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why not? Hillary imagines she's president.

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[–] WickedVocalist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They think they have a high profile patient. They will never be diagnosed with having delusions though, because they are the ones who invented the criterion.

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think psychiatry is delusional.

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[–] Antifa_Hivemind 4 points 6 points (+10|-4) ago  (edited ago)

As much as I am disgusted by these moronic physicians abusing their position and their knowledge of medicine to smear Trump, this is not malpractice. Doctors are guilty of malpractice when a patient is under their care and there is undeniable evidence of negligence. I would rather view this as slander, as they are making a public statement about Trump's mental health based on nothing except essentially what they see on TV. They have never met Trump and have damn sure never performed a psychological evaluation on him, so they are not qualified in the least to speak about his mental state. The actions of these doctors is a complete disgrace to the medical profession.

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[–] Antifa_Hivemind 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The Goldwater Rule deals with an ethics violation, not malpractice. Malpractice occurs when a doctor fails to provide the accepted standard of care to his or her patient - either through gross negligence, not following the proper guidelines, or withholding information from a patient that would affect their decision on how to approach their healthcare. But the key is the patient must be in the care of the physician. This is coming straight from a discussion I had with a physician who also had a degree in law; but if you don't believe me, look up info about medical malpractice laws.

Like I said previously, I completely disagree with what these psychiatrists did, and it IS unethical and an abuse of power; but it is not malpractice.

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[–] lettersofmarque 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think what AH is trying to say is that "malpractice" has a specific legal definition which is more narrow than the common usage. In a legal context a practitioner can assfuck his entire code of professional ethics and still maybe not commit the specific legal violation of malpractice. I agree with the premise that an ethics violation alone should be proof of malpractice, but it's just not. Sounds weird, but true. Maybe the below text I found helps:

an ethical violation alone may be insufficient to constitute an actionable breach of duty or standard of care. A violation of a canon of ethics or a disciplinary rule is not in itself considered an actionable breach of duty.2 As with statutes and regulations, if a plaintiff can show that a disciplinary rule that was intended to protect him or her was violated, that may be evidence of negligence.2 In any event, the plaintiff must still prove the causal relationship between the negligent act or omission and the resulting damage.

Boundary Violations and Malpractice Litigation. Psychiatric Times. April 01, 2008

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[–] Fartlickious 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I was urged to go get “therapy” after an accident not too long ago. I’m looking this shit up on psychology today, the therapists....it’s all faggots,lesbos, trannies, swarthy jews, niggers or some combination of that and obnoxious sjw types. This only exists, this profession... to brainwash people into accepting our bullshit, niggerloving society. I picked a fuckable blonde who looked like they had zero of the above qualities. So far so good.

Those titties are very therapeutic. What a fucking waste of time.

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[–] StarMagick 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

You sound like a healthy and totally sane person without any mental health issues at all. I'm sure your therapy is a waste of time.

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[–] voatusernamevoat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

How sane can he be to be overpaying to see nice titties?

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[–] WickedVocalist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

So because you're an olive skinned, non swarthy Arab with access to steroids and wealthy medical professionals, you get to live above the law?

I picked a fuckable blonde who looked like they had zero of the above qualities. So far so good.

Are you profiling me as your next rape victim?

Is she an object that doesn't need to consent since you're one of the medical nazi Stasi loverboys, Arab Soy boi?

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[–] Fartlickious 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Theres no way I know you, but post a pic of your ass in yoga pants and I will decide if you’re fuckable

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[–] ludwigvon 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

How is this different than the doctor who said HRC had parkinsons without examining her?

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[–] theoldones 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

its different becuase hillary was clearly fainting and having to be dragged into a van by staff, and yet they say everythings fine medically, so its quite fucking clear somethings wrong with hillarys health.

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[–] ludwigvon 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I agree but it's no more a basis for a diagnosis than what they are attempting to do with trump. These doctors are welcome to voice their opinion but it's hypocritical to suggest malpractice now yet be fine with armchair diagnosis on HRC.

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[–] derram 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=rFNZ0kVirs0 :

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[–] idle_voating 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Psychiatrists Diagnosing Trump Are Guilty of Malpractice

FTFY. Especially when they put kids on pills that fuck up their brain chemistry with no idea of the consequences. They do things like diagnose people as having chemical imbalances without ever testing for one.

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[–] VivaFrei 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

But the pay is soooooooo gooooooood.

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