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[–] cdglow 2 points 30 points (+32|-2) ago 

Whether it's addictive or not or harmful or not is interesting to debate, but ought to be irrelevant.

There's no justification for throwing a human being in a metal cage for ingesting a plant (whether good or bad) into your own body. The State shouldn't own you.

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[–] KILLtheRATS 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This one

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[–] shrink 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

What about if I consume cocaine (and in the process not only destroy my life but harshly affect those of my family)? Should that be okay? Technically it's not a plant but it's plant material from the coca plant. Should cocaine be legal?

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[–] 11370201? 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

If you can't use cocaine and not destroy your life you're a fucking piece of shit who probably can't hold their shit together if they're sober either.

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[–] 62408619896 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

this is a false premise because the main reason cocaine or any drug ‘destroys families’ is because of legal status (and propaganda)

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[–] 22jam22 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

This is the number one reason.. Voat loves it but the truth is most drugs where first made illigal using made up racial shit.. Or partialy true racial shit but what ever goverment allows bullshit big pharmaceutical drugs while out laying weed. Drug war helped destroy the black community.. Ya goats love that but id rather have less poor and less crime.

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[–] DishingShitLikeA 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It wasn't race based. That's just an excuse that was used. Behind it all is $ in some shape or form. Usually hard to see and abstract. For every recent prohibition someone, somewhere, was cackling all the way to the bank. Misery and death left in their wake.

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[–] KILLtheRATS 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

My issue with prohibition is the fact that can plant it on you and lock you in a cage for years.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

This is why the people perpetuating the war on drugs are war criminals and need to be tried as such.

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[–] themaestro777 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It's also a terrible feeling for the 'drug users' just looking for some relief in their lives to be put in a cage.

I'm sorry I just don't have much empathy for cops looking to advance their careers by locking up drug users.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

And take your shit.

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[–] beece 1 point 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

Sessions looks like he'll go back to locking up good people who smoke a joint and letting the CIA continue to import tons of Heroin into the country. Totally fucked up.

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[–] dooob 6 points 17 points (+23|-6) ago 

Everything is addictive, even weed. Specially if you start young. I agree that weed should be legal and taxed but this is the weakest argument for it.

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[–] NotHereForPizza 1 point 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

You're not really understanding the different arguments here. You're invoking two particular arguments.

Firstly, the "pot isn't addictive" argument is a comparative one. Its users suggest when saying pot isn't addictive that it isn't physically addictive which means that it doesn't grant physical withdraws when one suddenly stops use after a tolerance build up.

This actually brings us to the next argument you've called upon which suggests that anything can be psychologically addictive. It makes sense, as it typically supports a continuous, scheduled dopamine release that becomes habitual. So, this includes plenty of things, often not limited to just drugs, like shopping, masturbating, running, sex, etc. Which actually seems promising since the process of consuming cannabis actually really aligns with preexisting conditions and processes within our bodies naturally.

Let me explain: Cannabis contains chemicals called canabinoids. Within our bodies we have receptors called which make up the endocannabinoid system. These receptors fire chemicals called ligands back and forth. Well, if you study these ligands, you'll find that there are three sub catagories used in the cannabinoid receptors: endocannabinoids (cannabinoids produced naturally in our bodies in many ways and in many places), phytocannabinoids (produced naturally in the plant), and synthetic cannabinoids (artificial and not really important here).

So, I don't mean to take a stance within the arguments presented, but I wanted you to know how fucking curious it is that these exist and how cool their relationship is. Even if we find it is addictive and that that's really substantial, it's really cool to know about.

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[–] dooob 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Dont get me wrong, i am pro-weed, not just medical, fuck it, sell to everyone. I have a problem with kids smoking it. Legalizing actually reduces the number of teen smokers.

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[–] Neskuaxa ago 

Thanks for this. I knew of the Endocannibanoid system, but I didn't know about the Phytocannabinoids. Doesn't this info make it seem even stranger that it is illegal? If there's a system within our bodies designed to produce, and utilize cannabinoids, wouldn't we want to study that even more?

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[–] XSS1337 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

... says the man that doesn't smoke it , wanting to influence policy ..... like say.... the FED....

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[–] dooob 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Who said i dont smoke it?

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[–] TheStapler ago  (edited ago)

well, i don't smoke since i don't have a medical condition, and i would hence be just another degenerate stoner... but i also believe it ought to be completely legal.

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[–] lopan 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

fuck you and everyone else that wants to tax even MORE shit

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[–] peacegnome 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

While i agree with you, the first step is to get it unscheduled, and then to deal with the sin tax. in order to legalize it you need to entice policy makers and the non-smokers; a good way to do this is with taxes.

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[–] Gowdy 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I was addicted to weed for a bit. Decided I didn't like stoners. It wasn't a comfortable decision but I stopped smoking and did productive shit. My tipping point was when my roommate bought a pound of weed and was all like "we can sell it together". Fuck me right? I'd rather just have a roommate that makes rent w/o nonsense. Fuck that 2nd job nonsense.

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[–] NotoriousIUD 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

If anything it sure as hell shouldn't be schedule 1 at the very least.

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[–] Mylon 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

This doesn't go far enough.

Everyone that has kept marijuana illegal needs to be tried as war criminals. They declared this a war on drugs so war crimes seems to be an appropriate scale for the charges.

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[–] Reverse-Flash 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I disagree, I think everyone should be scheduled for medical marijuana. I suggest 10 doses spread throughout the day.

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[–] 62408619896 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

did any of you even read the article? it’s not about recreational use being addictive or not - it’s about cbd, one of many chemicals found in cannabis, not being additive (it has zero recreational value and does not get you high in anyway)

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