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[–] Veggiehead 3 points 22 points (+25|-3) ago 

Running low on cannon fodder I guess.

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[–] tendiesonfloor [S] 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

Yeah, Israel.

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[–] pickled 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago 

Came here to say this, can't have a gun if you smoke, please take this gun even if you smoke?

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[–] XSS1337 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Can't have a beer but you can die in combat ......

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[–] 5v1soundsfair 5 points 14 points (+19|-5) ago  (edited ago)

ITT: People who have a grudge against weed but most likely get wasted drinking alcohol on the weekends. These people also seem to believe that it's impossible to time it right so it leaves your system before a drug test and that people regularly lie on their recruitment forms about it. These people are woefully ignorant hypocrites.

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[–] shimmyquarterturn 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yep, and the army is especially bad with alcohol abuse among enlisted. You can get three DUIs in active duty before getting kicked out. That's three times you have completely forfeited personal responsibility for the lives of everyone around you. And three times they've moved the goalpost back to accommodate the abuse.

On the other hand, if you have any detectable amount of marijuana usage at any time, it's immediate discharge.

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[–] SexMachine 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

This is a bullshit article. I joined in '02, tried to sign up right after 9/11, but took me a minute because I had a felony record... for selling fucking drugs.

I served, was a recruiter, and had secret clearance. They've always let people in who have used drugs. You were even allowed to fail your first drug test in the Army.

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[–] meow_cow 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That's probably because you joined after 9-11.

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[–] SexMachine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They didn't have to lower the standard post-9/11 because so many people were willing to join.

When I was on recruiting in 07 they lowered the standards because no one wanted to join, but that was just the educational requirements, not legal.

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[–] shimmyquarterturn 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Joined the Navy in 05. Guy at MEPS told DoN that he never smoked marijuana. Then, at the moment of truth, he said he did.

He wasn't dropped from service, but he was promptly dropped from the nuclear program, and instead got to enlist as a striker/dishwasher.

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[–] SexMachine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well he had to have lied on his SF86. That'll usually get you dropped. He could've went into the recruiting station, said he smoked weed, which would've been annotated with he hasn't touched it in over a year, and you don't even need a waiver for that. Everyone has smoked weed.

Most recruiters will just say 'no' to everything and properly brief their applicants to not say shit to the people at MEPS.

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[–] EngelbertHumperdinck 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I was contacted by a recruiter in high school, but when I told him I had an upcoming court date for drug charges, he said he wasn't allowed to talk to me.

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[–] SexMachine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's because you had an open court case, and legally the recruiter couldn't do anything for you.

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[–] Runaway-White-Slave 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Still member when my buddy got back from boot camp and used the money he got to buy a sheet of LSD and about an ounce of KB way back in the day......

Like it fucking matters, years ago the recruiters would just tell you to not acknowledge the shit in the future. I told a recruiter I did everything from hash to opium and we still hounded me for months.......

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[–] kcupsandstudentloans 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"A while" being well over 30 years. Never lie about anything for your security clearance.

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[–] wifblat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I was kind of a drunken mess after my first two deployments and had a long list of alcohol related incidents. I reclassed to a job that required a secret clearance and didn't think I'd get one. I listed more than they had a record of, the interview took 6 hours, but somehow still got one.

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[–] 00100100-10 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I remember the time I enlisted and had to get a waiver for MJ in the Marines. Before deployment a guy popped for coke and got NJP'd rank reduction, and some other shit. He still went to iraq. You could tell they where hurting for people. When I got out a guy was getting kicked out for the same thing with less than one month left on his contract. Biggest fuck you ever from the military I've ever seen. Funny how they treat u administratively when they need you for a surge but are quick to dump u when ur no good for them anymore

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[–] 00100100-10 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Another story I just remembered. A buddy in the airwing was a friendly person with quite a few people. He would tell me how people would talk about all the coke they did that weekend but don't let so and so know. THEN he would talk to so and so and they where also coke out all weekend. My body came to the realization that over half the freaking airwing was on coke lol

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[–] superspathi 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They haven't done so for years. Here's a funny and 100% true story for you.

I went to enlist in the US army in Northern California. You have to fill out this form with the recruiter with all this personal information, including a section on illegal drug use. When I filled out that section I answered, "No. I've never used illegal drugs, including marijuana." Signed the form, handed it in.

Like a week later the recruiter comes back to me and says, "So, we noticed that you say you never tried drugs on the form. That looks suspicious. Particularly since you're from Northern California. You have to put down that you at least tried marijuana. You should say you tried it five times."

Ok, whatever. I fill out the form as directed. Later, all recruits report to a thing called MEPS where they take the final steps before going off to boot camp. At MEPS the recruits have to fill out the same application form they filled out for the recruiter, and are expected to have the same info. So we're listening to the sergeant at MEPS give us instructions about filling out the form, and she loudly says "Ok, so if you said you tried something FIVE times, you have to put down again that you tried it FIVE times!"

Keep in mind this was like a year after the recruiter guy gave me the five times speech, and many miles away. This is obviously institutional.

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[–] shimmyquarterturn 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Of course it's institutional. My recruiter didn't even ask me, he just told me to say that I've never used and to never change my story, ever. Same with all of the other people I've met that have enlisted from my area. I think they know that it's a garbage catch-all

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