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[–] Red0c5 0 points 53 points (+53|-0) ago 

Advertisers want to target specific audiences, which means a new platform that doesn’t store troves of personal user data is at a severe disadvantage relative to Facebook and Google, which combined control 60% of online ad spending in the U.S.

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[–] derram 0 points 91 points (+91|-0) ago 

So, basically, commercials are ruining the internet in the exact same way they ruined television.

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[–] Red0c5 0 points 49 points (+49|-0) ago 

It's worse than that, I just read the whole article. They can't review all the vids so they can't say safe advertising to the companies. They can't get people to stay because google and facebook have 8 out of 10 top apps which are designed to keep you in their networks. They can't sustain a massive audience because not enough content 'cos no money because no advertisers. Looks to me like the game is sewn up. I wonder who is behind all of this?

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Gotta make money to keep something afloat. Those bits are not exactly free to store and serve up. Not even close.

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[–] pnwpatriot97 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah isn't it ironic everyone would watch what they couldn't on from the tv on YouTube and now suddenly "YouTube TV" is a thing?

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[–] ginx2666 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

ruining

Try running. You're not paying to keep those sites online, you're using adblock, and well, servers and bandwidth cost. The only way those services can stay online is selling stuff everyone provides either way, like metadata and browsing habits. Too bad the companies interested in those are usually (((heinous))). At least they pay.

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[–] PraiseIPU 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Google and fb sell ads.

And only they tell the companies how they should advertise.

Which happens to be only on Google and fb

Shocker.

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[–] Cantilever 1 points 29 points (+30|-1) ago 

Fucking google and Facebook destroyed them. Poor guys. They could have done it if that duopoly didn't exist. Sucks

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[–] HarlandKornfeld14 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

I've heard they were censoring people, just not as heavy as YouTube. But once they start censoring 'hate', there's nothing to distinguish them.

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[–] speedisavirus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Sounds like they did it to themselves. Not totally buying the fact they don't track users. If they are running any modern ad platform they have enough data from global tracking that if the videos are finely categorized they should do ok. They can't target as well as say YouTube directly but they should given their traffic still get pretty nice revenue.

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[–] Womb_Raider 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

That's a real shame. I wish someone had invested, or that I'd known they were fiscally suffering.

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[–] Capital0 [S] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Yeah, it seems they just announced it today, and had told no-one before about it. It was purely internal until now.

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[–] mudbear 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I wonder if a fund raiser would have helped though, it seems that they just skipped that and shut shop without trying some other logical steps, makes me wonder if they were paid off or something

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[–] RampancyLambentRaven 4 points 7 points (+11|-4) ago 

Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit! Start donating to Voat now now now!

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[–] BrimstoneBrute 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

PuttItOut has been pretty good about telling us about the state of Voat. More forthcoming than most websites. Voat just worked alongside him to develop the site as it currently is. It doesn't look any different than it was last year, but it's a lot cheaper to operate now because it doesn't rely on paying certain license fees. PuttItOut is also quick to respond to malicious attacks on Voat that might incur higher usage of the server and higher costs. I don't think we have anything to worry about unless we hear an announcement.

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[–] TheTrigger 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

The canary is dead. Tread carefully.

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[–] lemon11 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Not that big a thing to panic about. Voat feels different pressures. Remember: http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/08/vidme-is-sjw-converged.html

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[–] shmuklidooha 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If voat opened ads up again, I'd buy a few.

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[–] JohnJones 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

something fucky is going on with voat https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/2263498

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[–] ElementalPee 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Damn.

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[–] Lafall 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

are we sure they are done??? that sucks!! they tried being an alternative but i guess in the end failed, exposing the rapists of Hollyweird, gamer channels, real science vids, some conspiracy stuff, patriot anti-islam Britain first stuff, art and music vids...total rennovation, maybe.? or you read about Kim dot coms concept or just go open source or bitchute? a typical fate of modern tech start ups?

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[–] Norseman 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

the bitchute route is the only way to compete. When you take out 90% of your operating costs you have a lot more flexibility with advertisers and creators and can maintain your audience.

It is the youtube killer (given that someone actually makes a brandable and user friendly site with it). I have a feeling vid.me's new project will be based on torrent or blockchain videos.

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[–] stillinit 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

This is why the media and television said "facebook" and "twitter" for a decade. Get that priceless userbase.

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[–] Hayashimo 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Well, that's fucking lame. I specifically left YouTube because fuck Google and went to Vid.me. Now where do I go?

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[–] theoldones 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

bitchute. most of vidmes bigger names already had bitchute channels ready in case

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Bitch ute is BEST ute!

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[–] xortuna 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Vid.me was genuinely a good site and will be missed, felt alot like old school youtube with weird and wacky creators rather than the plastic product placement prostitutes on youtube.

Unfortunately online video is simply too expensive to deliver at profit. The few cents an ad gives on a video barely covers the cost of infrastructure to store and transmit it globally on demand for thousands of users simultaneously.

YouTube would not of survived without google pouring money into it, the infrastructure is insane, talking exchanges at a city or district level having youtube cache servers in them.

BitChute is in the right direction by using P2P off the bat, but the cost is simply shifted to the users, for piracy this isn't seen as a problem as its cheaper that buying the product, but I'm pretty sure mainstream this would not fly as 'muh data caps'.

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