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[–] Queerness2 0 points 37 points (+37|-0) ago 

I avoid political conversation when I find the other person has very high emotions about the topic. I don’t care to ride their crazy train . I don’t mind it here but not in my real life.

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[–] Samsquamch 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

As soon as emotions are introduced, any productive discussion ends. Anything that make sense is overridden by the person screaming about race, or gender, or their abortion pills and how they'll pay for them in the future, or their one friend that totally had this bizarre accident that wasn't covered but should have been and CAN YOU BELIEVE THEY HAD TO PAY OUT OF POCKET FOR IT?? But don't ask for proof, that's being a racist misogynistic privileged asshole cis white male. Then everyone else quietly sips their drinks and remembers why you don't bring up politics with emotional crazies.

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[–] Queerness2 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Life is too short to engage needlessly with crazy people. They won’t change and you waste your time talking with them.

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[–] EveryPlayWins 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've had some success reeling in the emotional liberal fuckheads that my wife still brings around from time to time and considers friends. I used to just lash out at them angrily when they'd offer up some ridiculous falacy rooted in fairy tales and perpetrated by their lefty gods. Then I tried a new tactic: validation.

You know, the idea that when your wife comes home venting about how clients treated her like shit, you're supposed to validate her feelings ("Oh yeah sweetie, that client is a total bitch.") rather than try to solve the problem and offer advice on how she can avoid the situation in the future. It's bullshit, but I've found it can be a gateway for moving them from the emotional state to a receptive state.

So let's say your wife's left leaning, low information "friend" is over. You already loathe this person, but you need to place that aside if you want to try and red pill them. I assure you it is possible, but only you can decide if you care enough to try.

Let's say this person posits some ridiculous regurgitation they heard from Rachel Maddow like they live in fear in Trump's America because we have a President who admitted to sexual assault.

Now, your first reaction naturally is going to be "WTF are you talking about you stupid shit fuck. Trump didn't admit to sexual assault. He said that women consent to allowing you to grab them by the pussy for an exchange of favors that your status as a rich and powerful man can grant them." And of course, you're right, but they aren't going to accept this argument presented in this way.

No, instead you have to play their game first.

"Yeah, I totally understand that feeling." (it's okay to vomit a little in your mouth here)

Follow this up with something like "Hey, I haven't seen that video of Trump saying those things, can you show it to me?"

They proceed to show you the video (insist they show you a raw, uncut version).

Now, you can engage them with more questions that are going to challenge their ideas on the subject.

"Didn't he just say that women let you do it? Where's the part where he admits to having actually done it?" "Isn't he basically just saying that women consent to letting you touch them there?"

etc.

It takes some practice, but I've found success from time to time by employing this tactic. Again, it's going to be something you need to decide if they are worth your effort. I look at it like we need to redpill as many people as possible, and if we can redpill lefties, then they would become valuable assets in turning the tide.

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[–] Wahaha 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

Why the code word for women?

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[–] RoBatten 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

When someone thinks the only qualification for something is "diversity" . . .

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[–] KoKansei 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

If you can remain stoic, bringing out the emotional child of a leftist in front of a bunch of observers is a lot of fun. Once they start getting worked up, they have lost the argument, provided you do not engage them at the same level.

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[–] GoatEmperorTrump 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I don't care.

Fuck niggers, fuck sand niggers, fuck feminazis, fuck SJW beta cuck faggots, fuck trannies, fuck em all.

If you don't like what I say, stick your fingers in your ear and fuck the hell off.

Please come visit me in prison after I get arrested for posting this.

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[–] Queerness2 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I have own several guns and support gun ownership. This weekend I attended an event where a gun guy attended. The conversation was not about guns but he saw some weak connection and started to rant and give his opinions about guns. The entire conversation stopped and everyone just stared silently as he raved. He made a few good points but he came across so crazy that several people later commented about how stupid he had seemed. He was rational but the inappropriate level of his emotions discredited his arguments.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Whenever you are dealing with a highly emotional person, if you were to say that we should enforce immigration laws they think you are some sort of satanic murderer.

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[–] Schreiber 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Gotta change the angle differently.

Start by mentioning that 100+ nations, or almost all nations on earth, enforce their immigration laws and do not import rapefugees. Then mention than 100% of non-white nations are like that, and they are completely under control of right wing nationalists. Make them realize the fact that these so called "neonazi racist bigot far right ultranationalist" ideology is literally applied by almost every nation on earth.

I feel bad for all the sane people here who live in a society who worship blue haired feminazi obeasts who just cut off his dick using tax money. I've been there. It's fucking insane.

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[–] Queerness2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You have to see that coming . Your view isn’t one commonly shared by most people. Are you talking with them to educate or to arouse them?

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[–] madazzahattereboot 1 points 26 points (+27|-1) ago 

Just my 2 cents, but we're living in a highly censored era at the moment.

FFS, we have the innernet, tv, radio, phones, tablets and some of the greatest technology ever!

These should be glorious times!

Wanna topple Kim? Drop a few million tablets with free wifi and watch how fast they chase his chubby little ass outta there.

However, you try buying some time on tv to make a 30 minute speech. You trying posting something that goes against the grain on a popular site or social media. See how that goes for you.

Free speech?! Of course...IF you say and only IF you say the right things, the things we agree with.

Trickle down to the common man, we have to be careful about what we say, because we don't want to offend anyone...but fuck that, whatever happened to discussion, satire and talking things through?

I feel it's very unwise to stifle people, because one day, they're gonna explode on you.

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[–] solvire 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

sane points. I would say white people censor themselves though. Other races don't do that. We are the first to correct ourselves. Left-over boomer politics.

I don't know any other time in history where there was such a dense rhetorical ban list. Maybe you know more, but this seems unique to me. And the media/internet is making it worse.

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[–] worthlesshope 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

We're a democratic society ruled over by dictatorships. These dictatorships are allowed to form under the guise of "Terms of Service" and "Private property".

So while we are free to do anything we want in our own homes, most of the time..Our free speech becomes limited due to the dictators in control of the businesses we use. This could be simple managers/ceos of our work. Or the moderators on our forums, chatrooms, and games. It could also be the neighbors who make up the rules for the neighborhood.

For the most part it worked, till we started giving power to the loudest and craziest of the bunch. Letting people say "this person hurt my feelings so ruin their life." be ok.

It's on the verge of being unconstitutional.

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[–] Schreiber 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Correct.

Other races are freely spouting right wing ideologies on their forums. In fact those are the prevalent thoughts everywhere on earth. You can give it a shot yourself. Try suggesting an idea like tax money should be used to fund men who want to cut his own dick, then telling everyone that they are bigoted for not agreeing with that shit.

You can also say shit like "refugee rape victims should keep their mouth shut for the sake of diversity" and look at the reactions. Trust me, even the muslims (the ones who do not live in white nations), from the most conservative to the most liberal would think you are fucking dumb. Hint: they are not sending the best of their bunch to those white nations. In fact these muslim nations do NOT import rapefugees themselves,

Importing thirdworlders is how you turn first world into third world. Fucking Japan knows this, fucking qatar/saudi arabia/iran, etc knows this, even fucking Israel knows. Heck, even fucking african warlords do not let the "more tribal" and "poorer" tribes from outside of their territory in because they are fucking waste of limited resources and space!

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[–] bourbonexpert 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Automatic upgoat for use of the word “innernet”

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[–] QualityShitposter 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I almost downvoated as soon as I saw the word "sane"...but, instead, I'll just ping @henrycorp to annoy one of our resident trolls.

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[–] Muffins_on_Tuesdays 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"give me that tablet or i kill and rape your daughter"

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[–] sannleikur 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Seriously, people lose jobs for being conservative. So sad we let the communists take control.

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[–] greycloud 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

people lose their jobs for sex crime accusations even when they are found not guilty in a court of law. so sad we let christians take control.

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[–] solvire 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

It was a big game to play PC. The boomers invented that when they all got into power.

I remember sitting at the table with my grandma. Depression era. My grandpa was a ww2 vet. She says, "There is something wrong with niggers now days. They are uptight about everything so I carry a pistol. Oh? wait we can't call them niggers anymore." My mom responds with "yes that is not acceptable, you can use that term. It's a term of hate." My grandma replies, "that is just a word for them. I don't hate them. Black folks work for me in my home and are some of my closest employees. Oh well. Is this progress?"

Censorship is good for no one. Mold grows in the darkness.

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[–] speedisavirus 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

58%...awfully close to Trump winning...hrm.

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[–] Guy_Justsome 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I was about to say, "This information sets the value of every public opinion poll to exactly $0.00."

But on second thought, these numbers can adjust future survey results to greatly improve existing crappy poll predictions.

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[–] Kal 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Only 58% have views they're afraid to share? How boring are 42% of people?

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[–] Runaway-White-Slave 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

For real, seems like everyone's got a mouthful of Israeli cock, except for a larger portion of the libtarded... Very few people right of center share my views on Israel, and I hate libtarded people. Seems 70+% of the country is perfectly okay with butt-fuckery and genital mutilation in the name of trans-insane "rights".... I mean I don't even want to stick it in a chicks ass, have had a couple girlfriends ask me to do such, and one was an honest to God straight virgin {in both holes} before we were together, talk about gross a motherfucker out, thought I found a "diamond in the rough", nope just a freak wanting a dick in her butt...... {Was it wrong to never call her back after she finally talked me into it and seemed to enjoy it far too much?}

idfk, I'm not afraid to share my views with friends, or voat, it's just I know what subjects to avoid around rl friends, know their sensitivities which are few actually, sensitivities & friends... And fuck you guise, you can down voat me to hell & back and have a shit-fit if that's what floats your goat.

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[–] Obeastiality 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

"Good." -Jews

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