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[–] pcguy2 0 points 41 points (+41|-0) ago 

What the fuck is happening in this country...

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[–] chundernuts 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

A shit load of 'fearing for his life' it seems.

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[–] Equizyme 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

This reminds of of the south park episode where they go hunting. "As long as you say 'its coming right for us', you can shoot it"

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[–] Ouroboros 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

Seriously, this is the second time today I have seen The New York Post get treated as a reputable and credible news source.

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[–] Duderonomy 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Ooh, upvoated for the salt.

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[–] dreameater 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Technically that can be said about most of news sources. All of them are often so far on one side, its difficult to form your own opinion and even get the facts.

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[–] 9-11 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

what did the national enquirer have to say about it?

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[–] pcguy2 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Appropriate response as in turning a blind eye and putting this guy on "administrative leave"...

Nothing will change unless they stop protecting each other

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[–] TalkingAnimal 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I want to point out that putting someone on administrative leave is the appropriate first step. While they're on administrative leave you then investigate the issue and decide whether or not the complaint was valid, and either choose to terminate employment, require some degree of punishment as a condition of reinstatement, or reinstate the officer without conditions. Unfortunately, we often don't hear much after the initial reporting, so the leave is visible but firings aren't or conditions of reinstatement aren't.

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[–] whatthehelldamnguy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

A group of people have been given permission to break the law at will. This is what happens when that is allowed.

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[–] Grand_Panjandrum 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

Can you document your statement that the police are "roaming the streets and beating the shit out of people"?

The news item only reported what the lawsuit says happened. [And it might be absolutely true.] But I didn't see any eyewitness comments in there to corroborate. It's a one-sided report on the incident. As someone else commented: We need to wait for the trial before assuming the worst to be the case.

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Here are a few relatively recent articles, which appear to support Jelly's claim, although nothing specifically about the aforementioned article.

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[–] Chompchompers 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

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[–] Largemarge 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You might be right but in my mind the police of this country have lost the presumption of innocence. This kind of shit happens far too often.

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[–] Zkv 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Keep in mind, we don't actually have anything real yet. This hasn't gone to trial, the police likely haven't released a statement yet. We should be careful.

That said, it would be nice if we never had to worry about this sort of thing.

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[–] knuklz 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

I understand that some cops live in fear and all that. I totally get it, they deal with serious and dangerous situations. It's situations like these where I just can't empathize or understand the actions.

I do know, when I'm fear based, I tend to be aggressive. Whether it's being confronted on something I said that was not nice or whattever....bottom line...fear based or not there are a couple of good things that come from behavior like this.

One, it drags it out into the light of day for everyone to see and everyone to judge.

Two, perhaps someone smarter than me can come up with something to help these broken cops so they have different hiring practices or help to shift their worldview into something where this kind of aggression is unacceptable.

My final add...I'm an ass and I don't know what I'm talking about. I only know that I'm sick of seeing these kind of stories and don't know how to change the system so they go away.

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[–] dregan 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Mandatory body cameras. We absolutely need this in order to fully bring this behavior into the light, each and every time it happens. Both to protect police officers and to hold them to account.

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[–] IdSay 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

mandatory body cameras?!

MANDATORY BODY CAMERAS?!

sure, according to Obama, that's the perfect solution

but how about the usa do some ACTUAL FUCKING TRAINING ON THEIR COPS!

nowhere else in the world, a cop is able to be overweight, feeble, mentally unstable/racist/biggoted, without it being detected through consistent and frequent mental and physical tests, and them either improving or being fired.

Get more competent cops, then Train them, then do checkups, THEN we can talk about body cameras.

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[–] grayfoxjls 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I agree. This is why presidential candidates like Paul and Sanders need us to support them. We have to put men in power who espouse these views.

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[–] DownByTheRiver 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

dangerous situations

This isn't true. Being a police officers isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous professions. It's more dangerous to drive a truck than it is to be a police officer.

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[–] carlip 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Fuck im in the top 5.

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[–] knuklz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's a really good stat. Makes me think. Perhaps it's more perception that creates emotion, not facts.

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[–] DoNotTrustMe [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I just can't empathize or understand the actions

I don't think anyone can.

Unless the media are screwing us over and telling the side of the story that gets them clickbait... But yeah I don't think this is one of those situations.

I always like to change the headline a bit to make people who can't empathise, empathise.

eg:

Police officers smashed MY head into a concrete sidewalk, punched ME in the face as I screamed to MY family for help then released ME with no explanation

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[–] knuklz 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I like your style. It puts things in perspective. I think more people need to personalize these kinds of events and feel that moment of helplessness. To me, that's what this is all about, a police state shines the eye of mordor upon and individual that is helpless and punishes them. It's a culture of dominance and force. I just don't understand how to undermine an ideology like that in order for change to occur. How do you insert a new framework and deprecate the old ideas? It's more rhetorical than anything. I don't really believe it can truly be done.

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[–] bannana 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

some cops live in fear

If they are really that scared they shouldn't be on the job. If someone can't navigate the day to day without bashing heads and shooting they should pick a different profession.

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[–] knuklz 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

True, but words like should and could aren't really applicable because this is an is. Fear animates itself with aggression and in some cases, violence.

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[–] Quawonk 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

United Police State of America.

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[–] BuckySlims 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

This is nasty sounding, but rest assured that as a father of an autistic son, I would not have been released and you'd be reading about 'Bucky charged with of battery on a cop trying to defend his son' . Who would let their kid be beaten like that? I don't care if it was the mythical God itself, if my kid was innocent and getting beaten, I'd go apes hit.

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[–] Exastii 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No, we'd be reading "Bucky shot 25 times for assaulting a police officer. Death has been ruled as suicide by cop and the officer is on paid leave for the moment".

These are cold blooded murderers who you're dealing with. They will not hesitate to shoot you on sight so you must be extremely careful when dealing with them. If you are ever in a situation like that, stop and think, is it worth saving my son from a beating in exchange for his father's life? Can he take on life without me to guide him?

Start teaching your kids to avoid cops because they're no different from gangs. If you ever encounter a pig, you stay away from him because your life is in danger. If the pig is showing any signs of agression, put your hands behind your head and lay on the floor to try and avoid being killed while they restrain you.

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[–] BuckySlims 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's the thing though, I've had no fear of cops, been pulled over many times, been I situations where I may have been a danger (I carry legally) but have never been drawn on or even cuffed. The biggest problem, and this is my opinion, is that they believe they have the upper hand and all it takes is a bully to abuse that power. Come to Florida (or Texas from what I hear) and you have to assume that 3/4 people around you at any place have a gun and I can't imagine what it would be like if they didn't have that as a deterrent.

Avoiding isn't the answer from my perspective, teaching them to know their rights and not put themselves in a bad situation is my goal.

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[–] RedditSucksNow 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Cops sure do fear for their safety a lot. That kid must have been pretty intimidating if they were so afraid of him that it needed two of them to subdue him, and he was still so threatening that they had to keep punching him in the face after he was on the ground.

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[–] tokyobanana 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

People with autism (or autistic people for those who prefer identity first language) have difficulty with body language. We can unintentionally come across as shady or like we are lying/hiding something do to our deficits in body language, ability to read social cue, and have normal, reciprocal conversation. For example, this person may have been avoiding eye contact and not answering with the expected tone of voice or mannerisms, and the police may have assumed they were high, hiding something, or up to no good. Police need more training to identify autism, because due to communication issues, the person they are dealing with may not be able to articulate this to them. Reading these types of stories is sad and frustrating. Something needs to change.

Source: I'm autistic

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[–] RedditSucksNow 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

If police beat a harmless person, training isn't what they need. Prison is what they need. Solving the problem with training implies that they lacked knowledge that what they did was wrong. They don't care if it's wrong because there are no consequences for being wrong.

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[–] Sorahzahd 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Criminal cops need to be put in a cage, instead of being given medals and promotions, that's what needs to change.

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[–] Dissident_Aggressor 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

"Well, he had that retard strength, ya know. I hadta hit him real hard, and a lot of times, on account of I was so afraid for my life and the life of my partner. The media wants you to think retard strength isn't a thing, but we have to face it every day out here. It's very stressful; we need to take paid vacations a lot from all the stress of being intimidated by the retarded and their very strong arms. I mean, all we have are guns and tasers and batons - what good is any of that against a retard? They can be just sitting there on their property, probably flexing their retard muscles, and then, suddenly, POW! They get you. And it's all over. So we need to have training for that. Maybe we should get a few retards of our own, you know, for protection. The military uses them - I saw it in that documentary, called, uh, 'Forrest Gump' I think. It's a very scary film. Really makes you think about how fast a retard can get you, if he's running." -A Cop, Probably, Expressing His Views On Autism-Aware Policework

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[–] Caerlocc 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Being autistic and being mentally retarded aren't necessarily the same, although it doesn't matter in your post based on the point you're trying to make.

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[–] NotALawyer 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What I don't understand is, WHY IS THIS ALWAYS A HEADLINE FROM AMERICA. Seriously, richest country in the world with most billionaires and best tech cities. Albania has better cops. Corrupt, but fair and non-violent.

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[–] savageslav 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is true. Cop right outside of Shkodra kept my license for two days. Basically he wanted to get paid 15 euros and all I had was 50 euros. He even give us his cell number so in the case someone else stops us he can confirm that he has my license. I'm American citizen and I was driving my cousins car with Montenegro plates. All that was irrelevant to him all he wanted was his 15 euros.

Two days later we were coming back from Tirana and we called him so I can pick up my license. He was off duty so we meet at some bar had some raki paid him for the license and I was on my way :)

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[–] rothx 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

problem in the U.S is smart cops don't exist. If people score too high on the IQ test in the entrance exam they are disqualified. You can't control smart people only morons. Hence what exists today.

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[–] Seamroy 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

Your mindset is pretty fucked up all on its own. You just sit around wanting to kill cops?

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[–] Nofo 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Wishing harm on one of your own children so you can kill a cop. Father of the year material.

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[–] 0ompa 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Or just sue them

The end result will be largely the same except you'll walk away with a lot of money instead of jail time

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[–] Ouroboros 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

I just want to let you know that the only reason you don't have more downvoats is because people don't have the CCP to do it yet. Rest assured, what you said was fucking idiotic and exactly the kind of thing that's feeding this problem.

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