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[–] BezM8_5o 15 points 66 points (+81|-15) ago 

For those that think the removal of the Lenin statues is no different than the removal of statues that represent actual AMERICAN PEOPLE, you're straight up retarded. This isn't the fucking same at all. This is a statue of a foreign leader that represents not only FOREIGN values, but some of the most cancerous values known to mankind. It is NOT, in any way, shape or form the same as the removal of AMERICAN HISTORY. You're cucks, the whole fuckin' lot of you. Fuck Lenin and fuck the niggers and faggots that worship that piece of weasel shit.

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[–] GoatyMcGoatface 0 points 41 points (+41|-0) ago 

As a faggot nigger I take great offense to being compared to a communist

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[–] Scine 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Faggot.

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[–] stealthninjataliban 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Does sexuality factor more into life than race? I noticed your a faggot nigger not a nigger faggot.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 3 points 19 points (+22|-3) ago 

You are right about all the differences, but this is still wrong.

First, in a vibrant, confident society a statue of Lenin shouldn't be a problem. Second, it has historical interest. It was made under communist rule and stood there as part of their political iconography until the end of the Cold War. We won the Cold War, so it is an interesting spoil of war. Third, it has artistic value.

Lastly, and most importantly, making decisions and caving on things like this because a few protestors have their feelings hurt is bullshit and not how a government should act. He probably wouldn't do this except he wants to pretend government's caving to complaints by a small minority is appropriate. Then when they remove Confederate Statues or anything else most people are not offended by, they can claim they are consistent and always do that.

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[–] BezM8_5o 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I agree with what you say. Also, this statue is reportedly on private property, which means it's OFF LIMITS according to current law. I believe that this dem Mayor of Seattle is trying to incite the Right to try and take this statue down for the sole purpose of accusing them of damaging private property for political reasons.

In a perfect world, the destruction of history would be the greatest taboo a society or movement could partake in, on par with book burning and censorship of all types. That being said, I still support the removal of all foreign communist influences in monument form on American soil, private or not. I don't believe that communist ideals should be allowed to exist in the western world since they've already proved to be so deadly and horrendous. This belief of mine exists solely against communist leaders and ideals. It may not be a popular belief, but I stand by it so long as it makes sense to me.

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[–] tonberry2 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I think we are also forgetting that without the Lenin statue there will be nothing for the birds to shit on as they fly overhead.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It was made under communist rule and stood there as part of their political iconography until the end of the Cold War. We won the Cold War, so it is an interesting spoil of war.

Generally speaking, victors don't proudly display their enemy's propaganda. They usually have a downed warplane or something.

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[–] lanre 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Isn't it on private property? Maybe we should just turn it sideways and mount it with an american eagle or something. War trophy.

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[–] BentAxel 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

This has zero, nothing, nadda to do with anything other than: if you are going to remove historical statues that we value, you remove this one because you value it.

This has FUCK ALL to do with deep reasons of Americana or Values or what ever you want label it with. The mayor knows this, and removing the statue just let the air out of the people that demanded it gone.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The mayor knows this, and removing the statue just let the air out of the people that demanded it gone.

Good for him. He's deescalating tensions and making a reasonable compromise. It's debatable whether the confederates were heroes or villains, but I don't think anyone can seriously argue Lenin or Stalin were good people.

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[–] BezM8_5o 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

This has FUCK ALL to do with deep reasons of Americana or Values or what ever you want label it with. The mayor knows this

The mayor doesn't know FUCK ALL. What the Mayor knows, is that this statue is on private property, and what the degenerate faggot is trying to accomplish is to incite some Right leaning persons to come and deface or remove the monument so that the Mayor can then denounce the vandalism of said statue and jerk off to all his faggot worshipers. It's pretty cookie cutter obvious.

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[–] Tsilent_Tsunami 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

if you are going to remove historical statues that we value, you remove this one because you value it.

Hey, if you're willing to accept crap I don't care about for items deeply significant to you and your history, I'll make that trade all day long. People encouraging this retarded transaction are either stupid, or directly working for the enemy.

The point is, we don't want to have ANY of our statues or history destroyed.

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[–] HAESisalie 10 points 11 points (+21|-10) ago 

Bull shit, Lenin had nothing to do with American History and doesn't belong memorialized in the public square. The civil war statues commemorate our history and men who were recognized by President McKinley and Congress as US war veterans.

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[–] analfaveto 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

It's not in the public square. It's in private property.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

This is a spoil of war. The statue stood under communism and was moved here after we won the Cold War. It most definitely has to do with American history.

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[–] AndrewBlazeIt 5 points 6 points (+11|-5) ago 

Fuck you. The Confederate statues are of Americans.

Lenin has fuck all to do with America.

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[–] Tsilent_Tsunami 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Nice... AndrewBlazeIt is suggesting removing a statue of a foreign communist would be an equal trade to removing the dedications to our actual history and culture.

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[–] PeacefulAssassin 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

Lenin is not American or part of America's Hostory though so I am fine woth his statue being removed.

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Nobody's seriously trying to erase history. Things like this are about pointing out leftist hypocrisy; I don't think anybody was expecting the mayor to agree.

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[–] speedisavirus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I didn't. Seems like the type to argue against it because the request came from Trump supporters and to say its not the same as Confederate monuments despite Lenin being one of the world's biggest monsters.

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[–] Tsilent_Tsunami 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

No body was seriously saying "white people need to die", until they were. The danger in using this technique to point out hypocrisy is that people will take it seriously and make it a thing.

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[–] Goathammer 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Statue of Bolshevik in the U.S. can't be removed by the state because its privately owned. HA!

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[–] uvulectomy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The irony is delicious, isn't it?

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[–] 10224932 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This really should be top comment.

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[–] Calann 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

His message sounds reasonable. He thinks the statue should be removed but since it's on private property he cannot order it to be removed.

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[–] analfaveto 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

I hate communism as much as everybody else here, but if you demand Lenin's statue be removed from private property, you can count on the left immediately demanding all confederate stuff and flags be removed from private property too. Free speech means free speech for everybody, and property rights means property rights for everybody, even for those commie assholes who are against it.

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[–] 10223314 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Agreed

And then middle point slippery slope comes to mind

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They enjoy the same rights as everybody else, but use those rights to advocate for the shutdown of those same rights for everybody (but them, as usual)

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It's all fun and games until they get into power via coalition, taking advantage of moderates through consensus and compromises

Once they are in, they start to implement their "one way avenue" incrementally, by the time moderates wake the fuck up and realize they got pretty much scammed, it's too late to call for destitution, usually because they fail to reach the necessary 2/3 threshold, by that time heads of key administrations have been changed in a partisan way

You got obama, now you have trump, next you'll get what ?

Will trump even make it half way to the next ?

because there are a bunch of people out there, and not random people, politicians, legacy media journalists, that are implicitly or directly suggesting and even calling for his assassination or removal

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[–] freedoms 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah nothing is going to happen except the mayor talking about his "deep concern".

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[–] Welcome_fags 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

There is actual Goats here that wanna abolish private property laws because a statue is hurting their feelings?

Gas yourselves.

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[–] armday2day 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yeah they're the collectivists on the right.

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[–] PeacefulAssassin 5 points 2 points (+7|-5) ago 

Lenin is and was never an American last time I checked

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[–] analfaveto 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Neither was Churchill, so what?

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[–] Tsilent_Tsunami 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

The whole point of the statue being moved here was to illustrate the folly of tearing down statues to erase history... I would suggest you should be deeply disturbed at discovering your tendency to speak on matters you apparently know nothing about.

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[–] Prawn137 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Not sure how I feel about the pedo-mayor agreeing to this so quickly

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Feel that he is a weak minded wimp.

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[–] Prawn137 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Also yes, I have enough shame living outside this commie shit show

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[–] maxoverdrive 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This is fucking Lenin, a rat-bastard communist, an evil fucking piece of shit. This is NOT even remotely the same as tearing down a statue of Lee, an AMERICAN HERO, or a confederate statue of a soldier, who rightly or wrongly, fought and died protecting the America he believed in. Lenin is a fucking piece of shit; the confederates were Americans who fought for what they believed in.

Fuck Lenin, and fuck any shill here who thinks the Lenin statue is the same as a Confederate statue. Go back to reddit, you fucking Jew filth.....

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