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[–] Doc_Brown_Lives 6 points 23 points (+29|-6) ago 

When you are dealing with machinery in most factories, passing a drug test is imperative. Forget OSHA, insurance premiums, property damage or the like - I don't want someone on the line hurting me or a coworker due to themselves not being able to think clearly.

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[–] murraryrothbard 4 points 68 points (+72|-4) ago 

I'm worried far more about accidents from people on prescription med cocktails then some guy who smokes pot after work.

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[–] HarveyHarveyJones 2 points 28 points (+30|-2) ago 

I'd like to see more people smoking pot after the day's work is done, rather than before their shift.

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[–] JimboBillyBobJustice 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I totally agree. I used to work at a plant manufacturing plastic grocery bags...I hurt myself off the job one time. Doc gave me percocet...I took 2 weeks vacation rather than goto the shop on percs. Now almost everyone at the plant smokes weed in our down time (4days on --3days off..then reverse it after after 10 weeks) I got no problem with the guy who smokes at home after work. But almost none of us smoked before work..and those that did were only boxing racks of bag..press operators usually stayed stright

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Except the drug test can't tell if you smoked pot last Monday while in Colorado on vacation or on your way to work this morning.

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[–] jrfg1743 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

as long as there is a test to make sure no one has drank alcohol in the past 30 days, same as weed

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[–] hypercat 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

And I don't want someone to come in shooting on a Monday because they can't smoke pot on the weekend. It is pretty easy to tell if someone is stoned, and they don't test for alcohol. You can go on a bender and show up for work. But OH NO, you smoked pot 2 weeks ago on the weekend? Nope.

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[–] voatusernamevoat 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Someone who would go on a shooting spree from not being able to take drugs isn't someone to employ.

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[–] 10013212? 9 points 21 points (+30|-9) ago  (edited ago)

Because we have set up expensive "drug testing" as a magical means of determining fitness to work. This keeps the drug testing industry busy.

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[–] lissencarak 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago 

Testing is required because it's illegal to discriminate against niggers otherwise.

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[–] Hand-Banana 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Insurance companies lower the rates if you drug test. You should really blame the jews instead.

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[–] bob3333 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

It's actually measuring "ability to follow rules."

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[–] tendiesonfloor [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Or circumvent the rules. It's not hard to get around a piss test.

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[–] 10017991? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Then cannabis must be the ultimate rule bending catnip of humanity.

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[–] 10013279? 2 points 18 points (+20|-2) ago  (edited ago)

You would've liked the bridge tender in our town refused to get blood pressure meds and passed out with the bridge up. Impairment is not determined by our prejudices but by real psychologica physiological |factors, the most dangerous of which is lack of sleep.Depending on numbers on a dipstick leads to a false sense of security.

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[–] Putzmiester 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

Except that drug tests really only sus out potheads. You can do cocaine or heroin a few days before a UA and puss clean within 72 hours. All the dangerous drugs are out of your system quickly.

Pot is harmless. It is easy to tell it somebody is too high to operate a machine on pot, and it's hard to get to that point.

They should do weekly cheek swab tests if it's such a big deal. I always figured it was a manager's job to see who is in a state where they can work or not.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

people who commit crime

Don't care. The law is set up so that everyone commits crimes.

and are actively jeopardizing their health

Do you have the same objections to a guy drinking a beer at the weekend?

sanity

Yeah, because getting pissed/stoned once in a while is sure to drive you nuts.

and safety (as well as that of everyone around them)

See the comment you're replying to. These tests aren't about safety, they're about covering asses.

are far riskier and less reliable as workers

Citation needed.

I wouldn't employ a druggie under any circumstances.

Unless of course the drug has been sanctioned by the god appointed government and declared safe. Then it's fine.

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[–] RoldyRay 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

Stop disqualifying people for using pot on their own time. If someone comes into work under the influence of any drug, fire them. If alcohol was tested in a way that pot is tested ,drinking a beer up to a month before would show positive alcohol use, then they would have almost no "qualified" applicants. Testing for personal use outside work is claiming ownership over a person 24 hours a day, which is slavery.

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[–] Goathole 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Hang on now, let's see what the problem is. Obviously you can't trust the idiot at zero hedge to find out for you nor will Regina Mitchell tell you. So, let's see if it's a bunch of lazy niggers, a high risk low pay job or a combination of the two........

Warren Fabricating and Machining

Okay, so just bumping around I find that the "average" pay for a welder in the area is $16-25 an hour. I can't seem to find an actual listing for THE job. Apparently they've filled all the positions they needed filled. Casually looking through their site though I see that it is a large fabrication shop. HOT. Dangerous.

Let's look at the demographics, maybe that will tell us something......

Well? It's not a nigger problem. It looks like they have a population problem. An aging population.

So what we have here, imo, is a company that offers mediocre pay for hot, dangerous and unhealthy work in an area that has a dying population.

This is fake news. I don't usually expect much from Tyler Durbin anyway but he COULD HAVE DONE HIS FUCKING JOB so I didn't have to.

Start using archive.is with this fucker, he doesn't deserve our traffic.

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[–] ItsFappening 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

(slow clap)...

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[–] Goathole 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Sometimes you have to look beyond what they're telling you to find out the truth. This is always the case with LIARS. They always tell you a little bit of truth to make their lies less apparent.

I prefer hardened and uncomfortable truth to pretty lies but that's me.

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[–] FritzTheKat 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

A face covered with tattoos doesn't help either..

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[–] tendiesonfloor [S] 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

But, but, I express my uniqueness and individuality by mutilating myself in the exact same fashion as every other mentally unstable person out there!

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[–] Cheesebooger 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It isn't any employers business what workers do when not working. If someone suspects an employee is under the influence then they should test. Otherwise, fuck off with this invasion of privacy.

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[–] bob3333 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

What happened to voat's love of the free market and a business's right to choose their own employment policies?

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[–] awshidahak 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

But... but... but... it's different when it's muh pots.

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[–] Runaway-White-Slave 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Time to change regulations and workman's comp laws....

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[–] Workman 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Hey! What did my comp laws ever do to you?

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[–] JuiceTown 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

Sure. Cause we can have a bunch of high people operating heavy equipment and machinery....

Have you ever even heard of a lawsuit and does the term liability mean anything to you?

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[–] 10000-20000 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

is it not possible to write up a contract that says we will not drug test unless you fuck something up? and if they were on any, immediate termination with no workmans comp.

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[–] Proxima 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

It's different when someone comes to work high on something, but there is zero evidence that drug testing helps increase work safety or productivity.

Why the fuck do so many companies care what you fucking do at home if it's not making a difference at work? All they need to do is saliva tests to see if they're on something on the spot.

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[–] DeltaBravoTango 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

As with all things, it's insurance

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

And regulations.

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