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[–] fuckthisshitagain 0 points 129 points (+129|-0) ago 

and 30% are wrong.

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[–] Zaqwert 1 points 32 points (+33|-1) ago 

Came here to say the same thing. I wonder what crack the other 30% are smoking to think the info they get isn't biased. Political bias, corporate bias, it's pretty awful.

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[–] KyJoCa 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

"If it agrees with my worldview, it must be 100% clear and evident truth."

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[–] Cheese_Whizard 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago  (edited ago)

These are probably the same people that go around saying things like "Fox News/CNN isn't Bias!". They truly are a sad and confused lot.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

To be fair, only 24% said they believe the media overal reports the news without bias. So another 6% think there is bias but it is unintentional. I personally think bias occurs both intentionally and unintentionally. I can't quit decide which is worse, since intentintional and unintentional are both bad but for slightly different reasons.

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[–] POTATOES_IN_MY_ANUS 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I'd bet that if this study was broken down into age groups, we see those in younger generations up in the 90% range, while older generations would hang around 50%.

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[–] jameslee85 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

You know, you really shouldn't store undigested foodstuffs in your anus. Your hypothesis about age groups makes me think you're an educated person. I hope you will take my advice in good faith and think about releasing those 'taters soon.

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[–] klngonwarr 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I would agree with that.

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[–] Tappan_Zee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Plural? Your anus must be getting big.

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[–] fuckthisshitagain 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

"Ignorance is bliss," some people just don't give fuck. Problem is they still get the same vote as everyone else.

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[–] Typo 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Well, just because someone thinks it is biased doesn't mean the new source doesn't line up with the consumers opinion.

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[–] BustyChicksFTW 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Title should say "70 percent of Americans KNOW news media is intentionally biased"

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[–] NakedAmbition 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

I think that you have two key pieces of media that are bias, MSNBC and Fox News galvanizing the rest of the media showing how being a demagogue allows you to become more popular. However, it is the absurdly arbitrary neutrality of the mainstream media, your CNNs, your ABCs, your CBSs, that are the main issue. Most news stories go like this:

"Liberals say this" "Conservatives say this" "Therefore the truth is in the middle"

The problem with the faux-objectivity is that the truth does not lie in the middle, the overton window has moved towards the right at an extreme rate. You have right-wing extremist politicians who do not wish to accept gay marriage, raising the minimum wage, or abortion rights as proof of this shift in the dominant political narrative in the mainstream.

You can see this further in aspects of the media response to Bernie Sanders. Sanders' ideas are actually incredibly popular among the whole of America, people want a raise in the minimum wage [1], people want universal or a single-payer healthcare system [2], free education [3]. Bernie is not a radical, he's what Americans want, but the media still spins this yarn that America is a right-wing nation.

Ultimately, the news media's issue is not bias, Fox News is not destroying the nation. It may galvanize a heavily bigoted portion of the population but rather CNN and its faux-intellectualism and stupid-ass infographics. No the Malaysian Airlines flight did not enter a blackhole.

[1] http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/02-21-13%20Political%20Release.pdf [2] http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/229959-majority-still-support-single-payer-option-poll-finds [3] http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/5-radical-bernie-sanders-ideas-many-americans-strongly-support

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[–] parrisgg 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I hate the fact that it is always spun towards America being a right nation. For some reason everyone thinks Americans are literally facist pigs, and all of us aren't. It's so frustrating that the only people who can conveniently make America a "right" country, are the ones that lobby and practically own everything.

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[–] atw 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You have right-wing extremist politicians who do not wish to accept gay marriage, raising the minimum wage, or abortion rights as proof of this shift in the dominant political narrative in the mainstream.

Yeah, don't you remember the good old days back when conservative politicians widely accepted gay marriage, lobbied for abortion, and wanted a higher minimum wage? /s

Besides that, the minimum wage isn't a right wing or a left wing issue, it's a "do I want to lie to poor voters about what will help them so I can get their votes when it is widely known that this policy screws over all low skilled workers in favour of higher skilled ones". (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct1Moeaa-W8)

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[–] NakedAmbition 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

  1. Conservatives would have moved on social issues if not for the evangelical block, even Goldwater conceded that moving for the evangelical screwed the Republicans forever.

  2. The minimum wage is EMPIRICALLY shown to not kill jobs but instead increases employment it (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/07/03/3456393/minimum-wage-state-%20increase-employment/). When comparing your evidence which is analytical with mine which is empirical, empirics win out. Furthermore, it is shown that firms merely just adjust (http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/min-wage-2013-02.pdf).

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[–] WiseFoolofDeath 5 points 16 points (+21|-5) ago 

And somehow the majority is right this is time. The world is truly changing. Looking at you fox news.

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[–] NotJuanMadden 0 points 28 points (+28|-0) ago 

It's not just Fox News, all mainstream news outlets are biased toward the establishment on one side of the aisle or the other.

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[–] flyawayhigh 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

This is exactly it. The very large multinational corporate media is biased toward -- the vast corporate holdings of its major stockholders. Those would be banks, oil companies, funds, manufacturing, retail, etc.

There is no "two sides" on the media where you can stand in the middle and get some kind of balanced truth. This is the most important issue of our time. Turn it off. Let's stop filling our heads with propaganda.

I don't care how aware and brilliant we are, when overwhelmed with such a massive propaganda campaign, some of it slips in. Turn it off.

Time spent watching the corporate media is time lost to learn things. That one little tidbit of good information we might get every 20 hours of viewing is not worth it. We could have learned 500 interesting things in that time. Turn it off.

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[–] JustSomeFaggot 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Half of people polled though.

Fox news is nothing but propaganda, good thing I have MSNBC and TYT

MSNBC and CNN are part of the liberal media. Thankfuly we have Fox news to cover both sides of the issue.

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[–] zambeezy 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If you think Fox News is more biased than CNN you've already shown that you don't care about the quality of your news as long as it's an echo chamber for your thoughts.

A news outlet that tells you they're unbiased has already lied to you

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[–] ACCOUNT_DELETED 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm really of a split opinion about the vast majority of the answers in this thread.

I had the good fortune to spend several years outside of the US when I was a young adult. I got to see a number of countries in Europe and the middle east, but spent much of my time in central Europe. The nature of my job meant that I was at the center of what was "really going on" -- things that made history and changes that shaped the way European countries are today. There were more times than I could count that I would finish a job, return to my home, and I would see a report on television -- it would present a story and it would be the same thing that I would have been participating in the last week or month, and it would be astounding how things that I saw and things that were presented to the public in a way that was much different than what was seen by someone that was there.

In this time, I grew used to the way news and entertainment were presented on television, radio, newspapers, and magazines in Europe; once I returned to the US, however, I could see how differently information was broadcast. The differences in what I would see and hear from the American media was dramatically different than what was presented to audiences overseas (at the time, I was still getting news from reliable shortwave stations and from contacts overseas). Having been in a position where I could tell what had been going on and what was told to the public, it was easy to discern when the newscasters were not telling what really had happened.

I know you're getting bored now, so I'll get to the point: having been in the thick of it, I find the American media gives a false story about 95 percent of the time. This is just an off-the-cuff estimation, but I see about 75 percent of the time, the media or their sources are deliberately misleading you; about 20 percent of the time, they are obfuscating or distorting the story enough so as to make the story have no value whatsoever, and about 5 percent of the time, they actually tell the straight story. This is not to include the percentage of the news (the majority of the time) that what they are reporting on is absolutely rubbish; that is, they report on celebrities, who is winning on American Idol, or other inconsequential intellectual garbage (witness the recent "furor" over gay marriage while the government was passing TPP).

If I really analyzed it, I could see how much effort the media devoted purely into trying to tell me what to think. And it wasn't just news, it was the commercials, the shows (entertainment), and the newspapers and magazines as well. It was subtle, but almost all of them were in one way or the other, not just trying to influence my opinion, but outright telling me what I was supposed to believe.

What it amounts to is that most of the time, they are trying to divert your attention, and the time they actually devote to real news, there is a 95 percent chance you're being misled. Any "bias" you see is just the tool they're using to mislead you (and garner viewers).

This is just anecdotal information from someone who has been on the outside and the inside, but I have talked to others who have been in the same circumstances, and they generally agree with my assessment.

For what it's worth, I still get most of my news from overseas. It gets harder each year to find accurate sources, though.

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[–] pico 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Certainly both Fox and CNN are biased, but the type of bias is different. Fox's bias is strictly towards right-wing politics. CNN leans left, but its bias has more to do with sensationalism than politics; they'll talk ad nauseam about any topic with even a tinge of scandal or mystery. The CEO of CNN even admitted that he only cared about ratings, and he intended to focus heavily on "interesting" stories rather than important topics. The MH370 coverage was the embodiment of this.

Now, which is more dangerous to public discourse? I would say CNN. Fox's bias is clear despite the "fair and balanced" slogan which even some of the anchors state with a tongue-in-cheek tone. CNN hypes unimportant stories and obscures important stories which the audience may find boring (when was the last time they mentioned the TPP?) but attempts to appear centrist, giving them impression that the full story is always accurately presented.

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[–] OftenTooRude 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Looking at you fox news.

Why would you do that? ;-P

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[–] justtotellyouso 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Media is necessarily biased. I report on things that matter to me for reasons, and you report on things that matter to you for reasons. We are both biased. The most informed readers are the ones who read multiple sources. Each alternative source fills in the gaps for the others. This forces media to cover things that they would otherwise omit because there is pressure knowing that other sources will cover these details. So even though media is biased, it is in one way less biased due to this effect.

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[–] fluffingtonthefifth 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

There's bias in what you choose to cover, and also how you choose to cover it.

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[–] justtotellyouso 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

exactly

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[–] klngonwarr 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

and what points of view or facts presented or NOT presented

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[–] AgressivelyNeutral 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree, media is a business and they have to play for their audience. If you want to sell guns, fallout shelters and defensive equipment on national TV would you advertise on Fox News or on MSNBC?

Fox News is the master of this - their main goal seems to become consistetly more "Fox News"-ish so that the advertisers will know exactly who their audience is.

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[–] umpaloompa 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Weren't newspapers since the beginning of newspapers biased?

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[–] justtotellyouso 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

yeah, in the US newspapers were shameless compared to today's standards.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Originally there was no expectation they wouldn't carry a viewpoint which was only limited by how strong the owner's/writers' viewpoints were. The view that the press should be completely objective was a 20th century thing which was never really true anyway. It was certainly more uniform and less apparently biased for a time, though. It seems to be reverting closer to the average, though. I personally am not sure this is actually a bad thing. It is certainly disconcerting if you believe objectivity was both desirable and achievable.

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[–] umpaloompa 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

So how would you suggest to get a better picture of happenings around us?

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[–] Laron 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It is a bit like stating humans are biased. Of course they are. No amount of trying to be neutral will keep you from having certain views ( in this case of the writer and/or editor) go into you literature. Way to many picture it as either black or with. Which it really isn't. But I guess extremes make great for polarising statements.

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[–] FiftyShadesOfBlack 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Indeed.

You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war. - Hearst

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[–] let_them_eat_slogans 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The idea that journalists are supposed to be unbiased is hugely damaging in and of itself. Journalism in general should not strive for objectivity, because objectivity is an impossible standard to achieve. Journalists should strive to find the truth as they understand it, and they should wear their biases on their sleeves.

The very idea of objective journalism is an anachronism, a relic from the emergence of for-profit mass media.

The need for objectivity first occurred to Associated Press editors who realize that partisanship would narrow their potential market. Their goal was to reach all newspapers, and leave it to the individual papers to decide on what slanting and commentary was needed.

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Some historians, like Gerald Baldasty, have observed that "objectivity" went hand in hand with the need to make profits in the newspaper business by selling advertising. In this economic analysis, publishers did not want to offend any potential advertising customers and therefore encouraged news editors and reporters to strive to present all sides of an issue and more of the bright side of life. Advertisers would remind the press that partisanship hurts circulation, and, consequently, advertising revenues.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalistic_objectivity#History

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[–] 33db 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Not just biased.

Legendary Journalist in Private: “It Is All Fraudulent, All of It, Everywhere” The News IS Fake

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[–] gramman74 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thanks good read

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[–] Xraygog 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This is a no brainer. All news media outlets world wide distort and or omit news stories in order to crush freedom of thought and expression, political correctness being just one example of the attempts by fascist thought police to force people to think only one way.

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[–] gramman74 [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm going to upvoat you. That's why we need, freedom of speech friendly places. like this! There is nobody going to tell you the truth! You're going to have to look it up, my friend.

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[–] gramman74 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Just remember that, when you are trying to crush the other side.

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