The Supreme Court just unanimously declared the Gov't has no right to penalize, ban or prohibit "hate speech"

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Archived The Supreme Court just unanimously declared the Gov't has no right to penalize, ban or prohibit "hate speech" (supremecourt.gov)

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[–] Totenglocke 1 points 146 points 147 points (+147|-1) 10 months ago

Well, no shit, but at least they're openly declaring their support for the Constitution on this one.

Well, no shit, but at least they're openly declaring their support for the Constitution on this one.

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[–] go1dfish 3 points 40 points 43 points (+43|-3) 10 months ago

The constitution is worthless so long as the 16th amendment stands.

Obamacare? That's a tax

NFA? Another fucking tax

Drug war? Started as a tax after the 21st amendment failed, then they just beat the interstate commerce clause into submission.

The constitution is worthless so long as the 16th amendment stands.

Obamacare?  That's a tax

NFA?  Another fucking tax

Drug war?  Started as a tax after the 21st amendment failed, then they just beat the interstate commerce clause into submission.

[–] Hey_Sunshine 0 points 22 points 22 points (+22|-0) 10 months ago

The question is who do we elect to start seeing some of this bullshit get repealed?

We need a list of state legislators worth re-electing and another list of legislators that need to be axed (or hanged)

The question is who do we elect to start seeing some of this bullshit get repealed? 

We need a list of state legislators worth re-electing and another list of legislators that need to be axed (or hanged)

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[–] Unreasonable 1 points 0 points 1 points (+1|-1) 10 months ago

Avoid taxes by investing into crypto. They can't track you. And you only pay taxes on the "capital gains" you get when you convert to $USD, which you should not do.

One more year and companies like TenX will have credit cards connected to your crypto account so that you can spend your BTC and not ever have it convert to $USD, thus completely avoid capital gains tax, and really... all tax.

All taxation is theft.

It has been proven over and over again that the PRIVATELY owned roads on the East coast are better quality than the PUBLICLY owned roads on the West coast.

Who's gonna pay for the roads? The same company that the Government would have contracted with your taxes, but without the middleman, thats who.

Avoid taxes by investing into crypto. They can't track you. And you only pay taxes on the "capital gains" you get when you convert to $USD, which you should not do. 

One more year and companies like TenX will have credit cards connected to your crypto account so that you can spend your BTC and not ever have it convert to $USD, thus completely avoid capital gains tax, and really... all tax.

All taxation is theft.

It has been proven over and over again that the PRIVATELY owned roads on the East coast are better quality than the PUBLICLY owned roads on the West coast. 

Who's gonna pay for the roads? The same company that the Government would have contracted with your taxes, but without the middleman, thats who.

[–] IndigoElectric 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 10 months ago

I would argue that the seventeenth amendment is just as deadly to our republic and its repealing should be a top priority.

I would argue that the seventeenth amendment is just as deadly to our republic and its repealing should be a top priority.

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[–] physicscat 0 points 9 points 9 points (+9|-0) 10 months ago

When it comes to freedom of speech, the SCOTUS has been very consistent with their interpretation. This unanimous ruling is one of many.

When it comes to freedom of speech, the SCOTUS has been very consistent with their interpretation. This unanimous ruling is one of many.

[–] Martel-Sobieski 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) 10 months ago

Unanimously too

Unanimously too

[–] dontkickthebaby 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 10 months ago

The most positive thing from this is that they were unanimous. Now if only they can focus on more important things...

The most positive thing from this is that they were unanimous. Now if only they can focus on more important things...

[–] SpaceCpt 1 points 68 points 69 points (+69|-1) 10 months ago

So this means I can name my band Nigger Willy and the Porch Monkey Quartet without getting in trouble? I gotta get my jugs.

So this means I can name my band Nigger Willy and the Porch Monkey Quartet without getting in trouble? I gotta get my jugs.

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[–] BistroPalin 0 points 51 points 51 points (+51|-0) 10 months ago

I can name my band Nigger Willy and the Porch Monkey Quartet

You've always been able to do that. Now if you apply for a trademark that covers your band merchandise, the Patent and Trademark Office will not be allowed to deny your application based on the disparagement clause, which has unanimously been found unconstitutional.

Now will you get into trouble with that band name? Well yeah probably. But not with the Trademark office, or the law.

>  I can name my band Nigger Willy and the Porch Monkey Quartet 

You've always been able to do that. Now if you apply for a trademark that covers your band merchandise, the Patent and Trademark Office will not be allowed to deny your application based on the disparagement clause, which has unanimously been found unconstitutional.

Now will you get into trouble with that band name? Well yeah probably. But not with the Trademark office, or the law.

[–] Docta_pizza 0 points 13 points 13 points (+13|-0) 10 months ago

A while back I remember reading that the the Patent and Trademark Office revoked the Washington Redskins trademark protection rights to their own logo and branding, on account of it being sooo offensive and all that. I guess that decision gets reversed because of this? That should annoy some SJW retards. Good :)

A while back I remember reading that the the Patent and Trademark Office revoked the Washington Redskins trademark protection rights to their own logo and branding, on account of it being sooo offensive and all that. I guess that decision gets reversed because of this? That should annoy some SJW retards. Good :)

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) 10 months ago

Also, it might be used against you in court if the prosecutor needs to make you look bad, especially if you're being charged with a hate crime.

Also, it might be used against you in court if the prosecutor needs to make you look bad, especially if you're being charged with a hate crime.

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[–] TheDude2 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) 10 months ago

You're telling me that I can trademark the word "nigger"?

You're telling me that I can trademark the word "nigger"?

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[–] behindthetoilet 0 points 15 points 15 points (+15|-0) 10 months ago

I'll open with my band jigaboo jed and the coon kangz

I'll open with my band jigaboo jed and the coon kangz

[–] Fambida 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

I'll perform from the other side of The Wall™ with my band Wetback Juan and his Carny Crooners.

I'll perform from the other side of The Wall™ with my band Wetback Juan and his Carny Crooners.

[–] Infowarrior420 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

And I'll end the show with my famous single "Niggers aren't human"

And I'll end the show with my famous single "Niggers aren't human"

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[–] Sex-Offender 1 points 9 points 10 points (+10|-1) 10 months ago

Well can the state government penalize someone?

Well can the state government penalize someone?

[–] SexMachine 1 points 9 points 10 points (+10|-1) 10 months ago

I think you and I would make a great team.

I think you and I would make a great team.

[–] BistroPalin 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

The federal bill of rights now applies to state and local laws as well, so this ruling would negate any similar restrictions under state trademark laws. (It was not always the case historically that the bill of rights applied to state law.) However, it's probably moot since almost no one registers for state trademarks since nearly all trade is interstate and there's almost no point to getting a state trademark since federal trademark protection covers all 50 states.

The federal bill of rights now applies to state and local laws as well, so this ruling would negate any similar restrictions under state trademark laws. (It was not always the case historically that the bill of rights applied to state law.) However, it's probably moot since almost no one registers for state trademarks since nearly all trade is interstate and there's almost no point to getting a state trademark since federal trademark protection covers all 50 states.

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[–] cthulian_axioms 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 10 months ago (edited 10 months ago)

Not ... really. AFAIK the Feds have exclusive jurisdiction in regard to trademarks (I forget which "enumerated powers" clause it is; it's late and I am on my mobile, so we'll go with "it's the same one that covers copyright").

As for whether a State could prosecute you for "hate speech" if you were to register an ostensibly "hateful" trademark, that's a bit of a thornier question. No doubt California will try. I don't know if they'll win.

Not ... really. AFAIK the Feds have exclusive jurisdiction in regard to trademarks (I forget which "enumerated powers" clause it is; it's late and I am on my mobile, so we'll go with "it's the same one that covers copyright").

As for whether a State could prosecute you for "hate speech" if you were to register an ostensibly "hateful" trademark, that's a bit of a thornier question. No doubt California will try. I don't know if they'll win.

[–] Martel-Sobieski 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 10 months ago

No. Federal trumps state.

No. Federal trumps state.

[–] SexMachine 3 points 8 points 11 points (+11|-3) 10 months ago

I think I invented the term "porch monkey".

Bear with me, I'm pretty sure I came up with it. I can't find the term in usage prior to the 1980s, if you can, you will have proved me wrong.

So, when I was a kid, I lived in New Orleans. I went to a merit/test based public school in a majority black city. Surprise surprise, all of the kids in my class were white. So, one day we're going on a field trip, riding the bus, and the middle of the day there's always black people, just hanging out on the sidewalks, not having jobs, going about doing a whole lot of nothing. I stick my head out of the window, I'm like 7 or 8, and just start yelling "MONKEY! YOU'RE ALL MONKIES!!!"

My teacher doesn't even stop me, she's in tears laughing.

Then we get to the part of the city where there's porches, and all this black people are just hanging out on their porches, not working. I start shouting, "PORCH MONKIES! GET A JOB YOU PORCH MONKIES!! YOU'RE ALL MONKIES!!"

I was yelling out the window for a good 30 minutes, and everyone on the bus was just dying laughing. Even my friend Adam who was like half black.

The next time I heard the term "porch monkey" used was in Clerks 2, and I was like, holy fuck, did I invent the term? I've looked extensively into this, and all I can find is that it originated in the mid 1980s.... when I yelled it out the schoolbus window.

I'll be happy to be proven wrong, if someone can find usage of the word prior to like 1986.

I think I invented the term "porch monkey". 

Bear with me, I'm pretty sure I came up with it. I can't find the term in usage prior to the 1980s, if you can, you will have proved me wrong. 

So, when I was a kid, I lived in New Orleans. I went to a merit/test based public school in a majority black city. Surprise surprise, all of the kids in my class were white. So, one day we're going on a field trip, riding the bus, and the middle of the day there's always black people, just hanging out on the sidewalks, not having jobs, going about doing a whole lot of nothing. I stick my head out of the window, I'm like 7 or 8, and just start yelling "MONKEY! YOU'RE ALL MONKIES!!!" 

My teacher doesn't even stop me, she's in tears laughing. 

Then we get to the part of the city where there's porches, and all this black people are just hanging out on their porches, not working. I start shouting, "PORCH MONKIES! GET A JOB YOU PORCH MONKIES!! YOU'RE ALL MONKIES!!" 

I was yelling out the window for a good 30 minutes, and everyone on the bus was just dying laughing. Even my friend Adam who was like half black. 

The next time I heard the term "porch monkey" used was in Clerks 2, and I was like, holy fuck, did I invent the term? I've looked extensively into this, and all I can find is that it originated in the mid 1980s.... when I yelled it out the schoolbus window. 

I'll be happy to be proven wrong, if someone can find usage of the word prior to like 1986.

I think I invented the term "porch monkey". 

Bear with me, I'm pretty sure I came up with it. I can't find the term in usage prior to the 1980s, if you can, you will have proved me wrong. 

So, when I was a kid, I lived in New Orleans. I went to a merit/test based public school in a majority black city. Surprise surprise, all of the kids in my class were white. So, one day we're going on a field trip, riding the bus, and the middle of the day there's always black people, just hanging out on the sidewalks, not having jobs, going about doing a whole lot of nothing. I stick my head out of the window, I'm like 7 or 8, and just start yelling "MONKEY! YOU'RE ALL MONKIES!!!" 

My teacher doesn't even stop me, she's in tears laughing. 

Then we get to the part of the city where there's porches, and all this black people are just hanging out on their porches, not working. I start shouting, "PORCH MONKIES! GET A JOB YOU PORCH MONKIES!! YOU'RE ALL MONKIES!!" 

I was yelling out the window for a good 30 minutes, and everyone on the bus was just dying laughing. Even my friend Adam who was like half black. 

The next time I heard the term "porch monkey" used was in Clerks 2, and I was like, holy fuck, did I invent the term? I've looked extensively into this, and all I can find is that it originated in the mid 1980s.... when I yelled it out the schoolbus window. 

I'll be happy to be proven wrong, if someone can find usage of the word prior to like 1986.

[–] Synthicide 0 points 10 points 10 points (+10|-0) 10 months ago

Good story. Hate to burst your bubble though. I was able to find "porch monkey" in this book from 1940. Also saw in another book written in 1970 that said American soldiers in WW2 would use the term frequently as well.

https://books.google.com/books?id=QslBAQAAIAAJ&q=%22porch+monkey%22&dq=%22porch+monkey%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF4qvC2crUAhUCXT4KHY5IAY0Q6AEIKjAD

Good story.  Hate to burst your bubble though.  I was able to find "porch monkey" in this book from 1940.  Also saw in another book written in 1970 that said American soldiers in WW2 would use the term frequently as well.

https://books.google.com/books?id=QslBAQAAIAAJ&q=%22porch+monkey%22&dq=%22porch+monkey%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF4qvC2crUAhUCXT4KHY5IAY0Q6AEIKjAD

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[–] Helios-Apollo 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) 10 months ago

Even my friend Adam who was half black

Degenerate

>Even my **friend** Adam who was half black    

Degenerate

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[–] Infowarrior420 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 10 months ago

lucky. When I was in the 1st or 2nd grade I called a sheboonlet "nigger" and it literally started biting my arm like a dog. No one took my side.

lucky. When I was in the 1st or 2nd grade I called a sheboonlet "nigger" and it literally started biting my arm like a dog. No one took my side.

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[–] novictim 1 points 32 points 33 points (+33|-1) 10 months ago

Now imagine what kind of traitor would vote against this ruling.

Britain, Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, ...on and on and on.

Socialism is a corruption of the will of the individual in the service of a claimed collective interest. It is tyranny.

Now imagine what kind of traitor would vote against this ruling. 

Britain, Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, ...on and on and on.  

Socialism is a corruption of the will of the individual in the service of a claimed collective interest.  It is tyranny.

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[–] fagnig 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) 10 months ago

Netherlands is a weird case, its both cucked in some senses and passionately free speech in others. My mind is not made up. Maybe their problems are not around free speech and at the expense of other freedoms.

But hey in this political climate who truly has their shit together except non-europeans?

Netherlands is a weird case, its both cucked in some senses and passionately free speech in others. My mind is not made up. Maybe their problems are not around free speech and at the expense of other freedoms.

But hey in this political climate who truly has their shit together except non-europeans?

[–] novictim 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) 10 months ago

passionately free speech

Was. Past Tense.

Then Geert Wilders was prosecuted and convicted for speaking the truth against there being too many Moroccans, the chief community behind crime.

>passionately free speech 

Was.  Past Tense. 

Then Geert Wilders was prosecuted ***and convicted*** for speaking the truth against there being too many Moroccans, the chief community behind crime.

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[–] anon9948 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) 10 months ago

Or capitalist corporations, that completely don't care about free speach. But they're spesiul, i know.

Or capitalist corporations, that completely don't care about free speach. But they're spesiul, i know.

[–] novictim 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 10 months ago

Yes, I am agreeing with you on that in the "special" case of monopolies and near monopolies of the "public square" on line. Face book and Twitter and Youtube do, imo, have a responsibility to maintain the 1st amendment on the public square they now own and occupy. The US Citizenry and legal system have yet to acknowledge this special case.

Yes, I am agreeing with you on that in the "special" case of monopolies and near monopolies of the "public square" on line. Face book and Twitter and Youtube do, imo, have a responsibility to maintain the 1st amendment on the public square they now own and occupy.  The US Citizenry and legal system have yet to acknowledge this special case.

[–] Maroonsaint 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 10 months ago

It's bs. 90% of people aren't that sensitive about shit. It's manufactured outrage and because of the internet it gets an audience and spreads to the masses.

It's bs. 90% of people aren't that sensitive about shit. It's manufactured outrage and because of the internet it gets an audience and spreads to the masses.

[–] aria_taint 0 points 16 points 16 points (+16|-0) 10 months ago

There's only free speech.

There's only free speech.

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[–] jewsbadnews 3 points 7 points 10 points (+10|-3) 10 months ago

See many alt-lite faggots saying hate speech isn't free speech. This is how much Marxism has seeped into our society.

See many alt-lite faggots saying hate speech isn't free speech. This is how much Marxism has seeped into our society.

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[–] fagnig 5 points -4 points 1 points (+1|-5) 10 months ago

Oh fuck you nigger. Im free speech as fuck and im not some false dichotomy over HARD FASH and SOFT FASH, we just care bout nationalism and culture you desperate ideologue.

Oh fuck you nigger. Im free speech as fuck and im not some false dichotomy over HARD FASH and SOFT FASH, we just care bout nationalism and culture you desperate ideologue.

[–] bloodguard 0 points 16 points 16 points (+16|-0) 10 months ago

Cover your ears, voaters. Being subjected to mass Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeing has been known to cause abdominal muscle strain due to excessive laughter.

Cover your ears, voaters.     Being subjected to mass *Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeing* has been known to cause abdominal muscle strain due to excessive laughter.

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[–] Martel-Sobieski 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 10 months ago

Yeah. The real effect of this case is that the Washington redskins get their trademark back

Yeah. The real effect of this case is that the Washington redskins get their trademark back

[–] RickC-137 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 10 months ago

Damn, I was really hoping they would switch to a potato mascot!

Damn, I was really hoping they would switch to a potato mascot!

[–] lude 0 points 12 points 12 points (+12|-0) 10 months ago

Didn't know this was an issue but THANK GOD

Didn't know this was an issue but THANK GOD

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[–] StagOfMull 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 10 months ago

How about the fact that this protection does not exist in any remaining 1st world country.

How about the fact that this protection does not exist in any remaining 1st world country.

[–] EloquentOgre 0 points 11 points 11 points (+11|-0) 10 months ago

https://archive.fo/auNvB

A huge win for the first amendment. And I mean huge. This was by a unanimous vote. That is something one rarely sees, and it is a powerful message that is going to send a shudder that will reverberate far and wide. I'm so sick of seeing the left going full on Leninist/Stalinist and using everything from legislation to character assassination and career threats/destruction and social stigmatization/incrimination in response to any dissenting opinions.

https://archive.fo/auNvB

A huge win for the first amendment.  And I mean huge.  This was by a *unanimous* vote.  That is something one rarely sees, and it is a powerful message that is going to send a shudder that will reverberate far and wide.  I'm so sick of seeing the left going full on Leninist/Stalinist and using everything from legislation to character assassination and career threats/destruction and social stigmatization/incrimination in response to any dissenting opinions.

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[–] mrtoker 0 points 10 points 10 points (+10|-0) 10 months ago

Unfortunately the private sector has pretty much removed the 1st amendment no need for the state

Unfortunately the private sector has pretty much removed the 1st amendment no need for the state

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[–] WilliamCutting 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) 10 months ago

This is the real issue that people are blind too. Want to suck a dick on instagram while pissing on a canvas? HOW PROGRESSIVE, we didnt know you were so artistic! Heres a bonus! Want to say that whites are a people who don't deserve to be replaced? NAZI MONSTER BIGOT, Your FIRED! Good luck finding another job you HATEFULL MONSTROSITY!

This is the real issue that people are blind too. Want to suck a dick on instagram while pissing on a canvas? HOW PROGRESSIVE, we didnt know you were so artistic! Heres a bonus! Want to say that whites are a people who don't deserve to be replaced? NAZI MONSTER BIGOT, Your FIRED! Good luck finding another job you HATEFULL MONSTROSITY!

[–] mrtoker 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 10 months ago

Exactly right

Exactly right

[–] Typo 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 10 months ago

Glad someone pointed this out.

Glad someone pointed this out.

[–] mrtoker 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) 10 months ago

I used to be fully on board the libertarian bandwagon then I realized that the private sector was fully on board with everything I did not believe in. When you are summed up as an economic unit you have no meaning.

I used to be fully on board the libertarian bandwagon then I realized that the private sector was fully on board with everything I did not believe in. When you are  summed up as an economic unit you have no meaning.

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