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[–] collegetoker 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The classical hallucinogens (LSD, Mescaline, psilocybin) are pharmacologically very safe; they either have very high ED50:LD50 ratios or the lethal dose is an incredibly large quantity (the LD50 for mescaline in mice was 1200mg/kg, so a lot).

Psychologically safe? That's a different question, but the argument could also be made that if a psychedelic triggers a psychotic break weed is equally likely to inevitably do the same for you.

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[–] wallstreets ago  (edited ago)

You'd have to smoke an impossible amount of weed to have anything close to the same psychological effect as a little bit of mushrooms or lsd. Also even good mushrooms are often poisonous and having some of the wrong kind mixed in or mistaking them can be deadly (although that's rare).

I'm not saying don't take them, I'm saying it's definitely not the "safest" recreational drug. The study compared it to mdma, coke, meth, and lsd anyway. That is by no means an exhaustive list of recreational drugs, and would be considered a grouping of quite dangerous psychoactive ones by anyone in the know.

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[–] collegetoker ago  (edited ago)

Also even good mushrooms are often poisonous

Do you have a source for that?

I'm not saying don't take them, I'm saying it's definitely not the "safest" recreational drug

My counterclaim is that hallucinogens have infinitely more therapeutic potential (microdosing for focus and mood boost, depression alleviation, treatment for ptsd in mediated setting, causes neurogenesis, etc) than marijuana and it's been shown time and time again that marijuana impairs short term memory. Harm to the user is relative really.