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[–] ougNaHadNepVed 5 points 66 points (+71|-5) ago 

It's only right. Animal cruelty in the name of religion is still animal cruelty. At the time these religions were founded, cruelty was commonplace for people, so no one thought about animals. But we are more civilized now, and should consider such things.

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[–] 9-11 2 points 23 points (+25|-2) ago 

REMINDER as to why halal slaughter is wrong

nsfw https://youtu.be/woSm-KTwe-Y

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[–] Ifaptocomments 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

that's barbaric.

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[–] Aswimmingday 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Well, I put chickens upside down into a traffic cone and than take their heads. So there's that. I've also slashed the throats of larger mammals who I failed to make a perfect kill shot on. People are pussies who don't harvest their own meat anymore.

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[–] OriginalReaper 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

fyi (for those reading this,) more humane slaughter include shocking the animal before death and not allowing it to see other animals get butchered

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[–] Thin_White_Duke 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If they do that to their lovers, imagine how they treat their women

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR 1 points 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

And mutilation of infant baby boys genitals in the name of religion is still mutilation and child abuse.

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[–] Broc_Lia 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

And adolescents. They do it anywhere from infancy to early teens.

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[–] Martel-Sobieski 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Actually you've got it backwards. At the time those religons were founded slaughtering animals like that was the LEAST cruel method available. That was the point of the method. Our technology has moved well past that and now it's extremely cruel relative to other methods.

It's following the letter of the rule rather than the intent of the rule itself. This is something jews have a big problem with and something Jesus called them out on

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[–] JamesMatthewsBand 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Nah that's bullshit. If Islamist were nice they would say slaughter animals in the most painless way possible. They choose to slaughter animals halal style because they are backwards fucks, has nothing to do with being nice. They fuck little kids and rape is okay as long as you have 4 witnesses, afterwards you can kill your wife for adultery.

People knew from the beginning of time that destroying the brain is an instant kill. You're a fucking idiot Muhammad.

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[–] ougNaHadNepVed 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm not sure I agree. Even in those times, people knew about the heart, and that stabbing the heart caused death, near instantaneously. A butcher especially would know where a heart was located in an animal, and could easily use a sword or special knife to stab there. Especially a domestic animal, that was just standing quietly. Loss of blood pressure when the heart stops beating would cause unconsciousness very quickly.

I think it is this passage in the Koran that is the reason for this method of killing:

sura 16:115. He hath forbidden for you only carrion and blood and swineflesh and that which hath been immolated in the name of any other than Allah; but he who is driven thereto, neither craving nor transgressing, lo! then Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Because they aren't supposed to eat blood, they let the animal suffer while it pumps its blood out. And, of course, it is impossible to remove all the blood from flesh, the point of a very famous ruling that a creditor could take a pound of flesh from his debtor, but no blood. Maybe, if the flesh was broken into its constituent proteins, and washed, the blood could be completely removed, but certainly not just by using this form of killing. To claim otherwise is to practice sophistry.

My reading of that sura is that Allah wants Muslims to be vegetarians, with the possible exception of insects, because they don't have blood. All mammals, birds, and fish have blood, and so eating their flesh is always eating blood, as well.

Interesting as well is that if Muslims practice human sacrifice to Allah by cutting the throat and letting the blood flow out, and hold to their interpretation of 'no blood', they are allowed to eat human beings, according to that passage. i.e. human flesh is halal, if butchered properly.

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[–] smokratez 3 points 28 points (+31|-3) ago 

That's huge. That's like slapping muslims directly in the face.

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[–] Nanoonanoo 2 points 22 points (+24|-2) ago 

and the yids

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[–] smokratez 3 points 18 points (+21|-3) ago 

That's the kosher bonus.

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[–] ArsCortica 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

They can probably get away with banning halal slaughter, but the kosher methods?

OY - FUCKING - VEY

Next thing you know those savages ban circumcision on both genders.

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[–] Nanoonanoo 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

good news

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[–] SirDigbyChikenCaesar [S] 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago  (edited ago)

WTFS is this? This isn't how you slaughter chicken! That's completely wrong. I remember reading something from a Chinese guy that wrote that they like to cook animals alive because they like the taste of their pain. This is the exact same thing.

Edit: here is how it's done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzIHG2Hx644

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[–] alele-opathic 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Dated more a few at a uni with a ton of FOB Chinese. Not only is this true, they also believe the 'improved taste' quickly diminishes after the animal is killed. The net of this is they prefer to buy things alive, keep them alive in the fridge (or elsewhere), and then cook the thing alive just before dinner time.

They may seem comparatively dainty, but can be outright savage. FWIW I noted no improvement in flavor.

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[–] Artofchoke 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There is a method called CAK, controlled atmosphere killing, that will humanely dispatch chickens. If they are being ethically and humanely cared for during their lifetime, CAK will allow most moral vegans to eat chicken. I FUCKING LOVE CHICKEN.

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[–] Aswimmingday 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Shit, this is pretty much how I do it. But I place them head first into an upside down traffic cone. The chickens head sticks out at the bottom. And than I take its head. The chicken can't fly around or get away from me while it's in the cone. It's a pretty simple way of feeding your family.

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[–] Hall_of_Cost 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Taking off the head and slitting the throat are vastly different though. Taking the head is more humane imo because it dies much quicker.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

BUT Muh Multiculturalism!

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[–] Gamio 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Riot in 5, 4, 3, 2,.....

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[–] Dibgick 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Nah. They will just import their food from other EU countries or Israel.

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[–] Gamio 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well more likely they'd just ship it in from another region of Belgium but not before the Muslims riot and the Jews sue.

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They're pretty hardcore. Notorious for the Belgian Congo. Time for the Belgian Belgium.

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