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[–] Deplorablepoetry 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

When you feed the child you feed thier mind

Only the dumb fucks get left behind

Because their dad is a piece of shit

Who let the gov make you suck on the tit

Of poverty, they will keep you weak

No energy to fight or even speak

About the degenerates that are running our schools

Implementation time to use our own tools

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[–] Saufsoldat 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

I'm not generally opposed to more federalism, especially when it's about fucking school lunches, which does not concern the federal government at all.

With that said, are they really implying that reducing calories in school lunches is a bad thing? Kids are way too fat as it is.

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[–] Marsog 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

I think the main issue was that they reduced calories across the board with no regard to age, height, athleticism, gender, whatever else.

So Timmy in grade 8 who played football and was 5'8" was getting the same calories as Bobby from grade 4 who was 4' 6" for example.

Also I don't know when you got out of school but I got out of high school right when these guidelines got enforced and for the last year the food got more expensive per calorie as our meal sizes dropped but cost the same per plate.

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[–] Saufsoldat 4 points 1 points (+5|-4) ago 

But then the solution is to give everyone fewer calories and the ones who need more can eat other stuff. That's infinitely better than the reverse, where everyone gets too much and the ones who eat less have to throw it away.

With the latter, you're making the act of eating less a conscious decision rather than making the act of eating more a conscious decision.

Most kids don't fully grasp CICO or macros, hell most adults obviously don't understand it, so erring on the side of caution and giving everyone less is better than giving most of them too much.

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[–] SpiritedYoungLady 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Calories are a good thing. That means that the food you are eating is substantive. However, when you have foods are made up of sugars and bad fats instead of vitamins and nutrients, that's when the type of calories are detrimental. If a cupcake had 150 calories and a bowl of chili had 200, you would still be better off eating the bowl of chili provided that the ingredients are wholesome and provide you with good things like iron, calcium, and magnesium over the cupcake that just has sugar and can throw your glucose levels out of wack.

Eat healthy, kids! Pick good foods!

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[–] Saufsoldat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If you eat 2500 calories a day of sugar and "bad fats" (no such thing in reality) you're most likely healthier than someone who eats 5000 calories a day of healthy food.

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[–] Durm 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

deserves more upvoats. esp for sharing what you have learned as a parent. like OC :)

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[–] SpiritedYoungLady 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You are doing the right things to help your son lead a long, healthy life. Keep it up!

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[–] WanderingMitten 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Michelle Obama's Logic "If I force them to take a serving of carrots, they will have to eat it!"

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[–] SpiritedYoungLady 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's what my mom said. Otherwise I couldn't eat any ice cream for dessert.

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[–] JERY 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

ive neve seen whole grain grits

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[–] SpiritedYoungLady 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In the words of Cousin Vinny: "What is a grit?"

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm willing to bet the people who wrote rules requiring them have never seen grits at all.

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[–] JERY 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

michelle dont know what grits are?

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[–] NYC_LA 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Perhaps it was all an elaborate scheme to get lazy ass parents to make their kids lunch (get invested in their child's nutrition) or get the kids themselves interested in what exactly they consume (be more conscientious about the quality)

But then again, you can see the bright side of (almost) is anything. Like jumping off a cliff to test the Laws of Gravity for your scientific paper - which you win a Darwin Award for. And guess what Darwin was known for? That's right - Science.

Mission Accomplished.

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[–] ScreaminMime 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Tossed Up, would had been a better headline.

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[–] FuckYouReddit- 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Would imply kids were stupid enough to eat that slop.

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[–] hypercat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They are stupid enough to eat candy and soda all the time and become tubby butter balls.

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[–] tribblepuncher 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

The revisions to the school lunch program had at least three things that were not factored in.

First off - a lot of the time, kids won't eat stuff they don't like. "They'll eat what I give them and they'll like it!" screeches some authoritarian parent/teacher/political busybody. No, they won't, that pretty piece of fruit will go into the pretty trash can with all the other pretty pieces of fruit if the kids don't want it.

Second of all, this food came at an increased cost while simultaneously resulted in a drop in revenue, because the kids weren't buying as much food.

Third, busybody teachers who saw fit to police what the children brought when they brought lunch from home. Their parents (rightly) were rather pissed off at that, and it didn't win much support from the kids, either.

What would the solution be? I don't know, but I do know that you're going to need to be realistic as to what they will or won't eat. There are plenty of places to procure food you want. In some cases, for the poor kids, it may even involve theft (which leaves some pretty nasty possibilities open - I'm aware of some cases where kids actually ended up involved in gangs partly due to the food available). Does this mean you should be feeding kids Taco Bell? Not really, no, and this is what some places were doing. But attempting to get them to devour massive amounts of vegetables won't work, either. It wouldn't work with most adults, and "do as I say not as I do" will work until the parent leaves the room, and will probably build contempt for parental authority within the kid.

Also, as a note to those screaming about how all the kids are fatties - not really, no. While there may be an obesity problem, that doesn't mean all kids have it. If you're going to be trying to cut calories, you'd better make sure you're cutting calories for the students who have calories to spare. Not all of them do.

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