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[–] Samchay6 0 points 134 points (+134|-0) ago 

Schumacher complains that it wasn’t a fair fight and his grandson didn’t have a chance to defend himself… while breaking into another man’s home and attempting to rob him. “Brass knuckles against an AR-15, come on, who was afraid for their life,” he continued.

Your stupid fucking grandson brought brass knuckles to a gun fight.

Darwinism at its finest. The species just got stronger...

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[–] ShowMeThePunny 1 points 47 points (+48|-1) ago 

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[–] you-do-you-dude 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Wish we could just remove all warning labels and add another darwinian barrier to the ability to survive and reproduce.

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[–] Caesarkid1 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

man this Borox really adds a kick to my taco meat!

-his last words.

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[–] anonnynonny 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

“Brass knuckles against an AR-15, come on, who was afraid for their life,”

It would be fitting if three masked robbers were to break in to Mr. Schumacher's home with brass knuckles and knives.

Just for educational purposes, of course.

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[–] pushthis 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

brass knuckles can be deadly, especially if the victim does not submit.

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[–] ilikeskittles 0 points 84 points (+84|-0) ago 

Fair fight? I never want to be in a fair fight, I always want the edge. That's the whole point. You bring a knife to a gun fight, sucks to be you.

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[–] Martel-Sobieski 0 points 47 points (+47|-0) ago 

There is no value in fighting with honor or fighting fair. Military strategists will laugh in your face for even mentioning a fair fight. You want the most unfair fight possible

The concept of fair fighting comes from the medieval code of chivalry which was 99% about how to conduct yourself in war, and very little about how to deal with women. It only works if both sides adhere to the code. Otherwise you're putting yourself at a disadvantage for no reason

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[–] vpoint 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

The core idea of fair fight is imo about not having anyone salty trying to backstab/poison afterwards or even escalating into something bigger like the popular family feuds. You create rules everyone accepts to avoid bigger loses on both sides.

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[–] HowieCameUnglued 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

If you're fighting for fun you want it to be as fair as possible (see: boxing, martial arts). If you're fighting for real, fuck that shit.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I can't even drive this point home to my gaming friends. I love multiplayer strategy games (There's no greater thrill than hunting human prey) and I'm always telling my friends that fair fights are for suckers. Yet one insists on trying to fight 2v2s and then gets pissed when it turns out there really were 4 of them.

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[–] BentAxel 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html

17 - 24 backs your post exactly.

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[–] Samchay6 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

Fair fight?

Three men came into his house armed (poorly) to rob him, after robbing his garage earlier that day. That's not just thievery, that is blatant disrespect.

Your kid was disrespectful, brazen, and fucking stupid. He had no honor.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

after robbing his garage earlier that day.

Now that's a detail I didn't know.

If my garage gets burglarized, I'm readying one gun, cleaning a second, and then cleaning the first when the second is done.

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[–] ilikeskittles 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not here?

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[–] prairie 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They invaded the kid's home, all three of them. That throws out any legitimacy to a plea for fairness. Fair? A planned one-on-one fight in a public place.

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[–] PonchoKitty 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

don't you understand? The robber wasn't going to try and kill the homeowners if he had the chance and take his weapon and use it against him. He was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time with a pair of brass knuckles. also, this proves that AR-15s are evil devices that only succeed in killing innocents.

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[–] gosso920 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

God created Man. Sam Colt made them equal.

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[–] Martel-Sobieski 4 points 7 points (+11|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Two whites two spics. Good riddance. Especially to the white shitheads. Little sympathy for them. Although I think one of the "whites" could've been a Jew judging by his grandfather name

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[–] trotfox 7 points 6 points (+13|-7) ago 

Maybe leave race out of it. Let's call a spade a spade, they are pieces of human garbage who happen to be part of a particular race.

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[–] EarlPoncho 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

do they have jews in oklahoma

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[–] Saufsoldat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I love how every German surname is Jewish to you people.

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[–] Solstiare 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

Schumacher complains that it wasn’t a fair fight and his grandson didn’t have a chance to defend himself… while breaking into another man’s home and attempting to rob him.

 

What's it like to be an idiot, Schumacher?

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[–] rspix000 [S] 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

The robbers "only" had knives and brass knuckles. . . .

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[–] Lemongarb 2 points 22 points (+24|-2) ago 

And there were three of them.

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[–] Cat-hax 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And if zach didn't protect him self you know they would of knifed him.

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[–] Rb8623 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Careful. That kind of talk will get you fined half a million dollars on facebook. Thank god for Voat...

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[–] behindthetoilet 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

At least you know where he got it from.

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[–] odb281 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Schumacher complains that it wasn’t a fair fight and his grandson didn’t have a chance to defend himself… while breaking into another man’s home and attempting to rob him. “Brass knuckles against an AR-15, come on, who was afraid for their life,” he continued.

Damn right granpa, your dipshit of a grandson got what he deserved. He was attempting to rob a mans house, and got killed for it. Your grandson knew better and knew the possibility of the outcome yet still chose to risk his life. Congrats sir on continuing the cycle of idoits your bloodline has produced.

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[–] w00kiepedia 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

More like ending after that incident ;p

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[–] xenoPsychologist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

guess some people dont know what kind of damage brass knuckles can do to a person. especially one not allowed to defend themselves.

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[–] jcwetzel 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

What of the 3:1 ratio of attackers to victims? What of their use of surprise to kick things off? Fairness isn't their defense attorneys go-to, I guarantee that. Oh, wait, they fucked up and don't get a trial. Well, that's not fair; let's try them in absentia just for the fun of it and have a good laugh over "unfair advantage."

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[–] neanderhummus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They also allowed him to choose the battlefield. His own house.

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[–] Crow_T_robocop 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Three young men armed with knives and brass knuckles can easily kill another person. I would be scared for my life, too, and I would defend myself with a gun. Did he need to shoot all three? Well, I wasn't there, but I imagine one of two things happened: 1) the others attacked or failed to retreat after the first and second was shot, or 2) the son quickly and immediately neutralized all three threats. Either way, he was defending his life against intruders in his home that obviously had the intent to harm.

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[–] Caesarkid1 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago  (edited ago)

And now he has to live with the psychological trauma of being forced to take another's life. He might need a lifetime of counseling. The families of the kids who were robbing him owe him reparations.

And that's how the fight started.

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[–] HeavyBrain 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Hmm I dont know I would blow their brains out and after the cops cleared me the only trauma I would have would be in my wrist and back from trying to paint over all the blood on my wall.

But yeah I guess cashing in on mental trauma is way easier, just saying he shouldnt forget the physical pain.

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[–] worthlesshope 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

report says last person was fleeing and made it to the driveway where he was shot in the back.

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[–] Crow_T_robocop 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You have a source for that? Last I read, third guy was shot in the house and then fled (and subsequently died in the driveway) when the son locked himself in another room and dialed 911.

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