Archived House votes to nix ISP privacy rules. 215 Republicans are to blame. (govtrack.us)
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Archived House votes to nix ISP privacy rules. 215 Republicans are to blame. (govtrack.us)
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[–] num 6 points 7 points 13 points (+13|-6) ago (edited ago)
This isn't a rep vs dem issue at all. Google, facebook and others have been selling your data for years, this bill just levels the playing field because they (The ISPs) are trying to profit more from the pipe they own and supply. If you use SSL which you should, they can't see much outside of IP and URL anyway.
If you wanna get your titties twisted about something, go protest for net neutrality laws.
This is meaningless and is just leveling hte playing field and removing the monopoly from google and facebook and the others who have been selling the shit you give them for years because FREE EMAIL AND CHAT OMG !
You want more jobs? companies need to profit, they wont charge you more but they will sell your data and grow and hire more. This is pretty necessary for growth and it takes the info monopoly away from the content providers who would be dead in the water without the ISPs
tards all worked up over nothin'
[–] mamwad [S] 2 points 7 points 9 points (+9|-2) ago
Most people have a choice when it comes to search engines, email clients, and social media. Most people do not have much of a choice when it comes to ISPs. If someone really wants to avoid Google and Facebook, they can do so relatively easily. They can use Tutanota for email, ixquick for search, and avoid facebook altogether. Furthermore, Google and facebook are free services, so users might expect that they give up something for them.
Most people don't have a choice when it comes to ISPs, you pay for it, and they you can't stop them from snooping without paying for an additional service or using TOR. They aren't comparable.
[–] num 3 points 3 points 6 points (+6|-3) ago
It's very comparable, this is collecting nothing more than was already being collected.
Now they can just sell the data to advertisers instead of give it away for free to the police. Anyone who is THAT concerned should already be on a VPN on their neighbors WIFI.
[–] Aaaron ago
.......................seriously what more do you need? SSL can only hide the page you want to view but the domain is always known. How does that help protect your internet history?
It doesn't.
[–] AndinBriwel ago (edited ago)
"...they won't charge you more, but they will sell your data and grow and hire more."
In that case, then, just like fakebook and gmale are free, internet service and cel service should be free to me, since I'm now the product of their venture.
The difference is, before this measure, I was the customer of the ISP. I pay them, and they deliver a service. It's a good relationship, most of the time, because it's in their best interest financially to keep me happy. In fact, if they fail to deliver fair service to me, the customer, they cease to exist. I am the customer, and the internet access or mobile service is the product.
Meanwhile, if I have a fakebook acct, I am not a customer of fakebook. They are paid by advertisers to aggregate my habbits, personal views, and interests, and rent my eyeballs to the advertisers. In return for loaning fakebook my eyeballs, they allow me to give them all my information for free. In that situation, the advertiser is the customer, and I am the product.
Welcome to the new world, where the ISP now sells you to any highest bidder. You are now the product, and the service they provide is just a means to farm you. To make it all even better, they now charge you for being farmed. Imagine a strawberry having to pay you to be eaten by you. Except, you're the strawberry.
[–] ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
You mean welcome to the old world, they pretty much had this ability since the first internet service provider opened up shop.
[–] heroinwinsagain 5 points -5 points 0 points (+0|-5) ago
terrible fucking argument. if i have to come back here and explain because you reply with some bullshit. i fucking will. government isnt reason. monopoly? you call what you gave up to said companies a monopoly? grow the fuck up.
[–] num 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Hi, I say fuck a lot and make no real points. Go home kid no one needs you around here.