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[–] makingreen 6 points 37 points (+43|-6) ago 

You guys remember freedom of speech? I sure do miss that


[–] StrongBelwas 8 points 7 points (+15|-8) ago 

You do actually know what freedom of speech means, right? Because sometimes I'm not sure if you fuckers are being serious or not. In any case, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.


[–] didntsayeeeee 2 points 29 points (+31|-2) ago 

Hmm, not in all circumstances.

But public employees should not be fired for their political opinions.


[–] corsairio 1 point 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

We are talking about the government using their authority to punish speech. If a person that depends on public money like a college professor can be openly racist against white people, then why can't a cop wear confederate underwear?


[–] reshp1 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It does mean freedom from consequences, from the government. I mean otherwise, people in N Korea also have the right say anything they want, they just get themselves and their family in front of a firing squad as a consequence.

It's debatable here whether the police dept is this cop's employer first or government first I guess. IMO, it's his employer first, in which case your speech isn't necessarily protected.


[–] SlipperyChicken 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If we were talking about a private business like apple with their recent choices you'd be right. Now we're talking about government telling their employees that they can't wear certain clothing in their off time if it offends someone. I have a strong feeling this is going to court, so we'll see in the future what the courts decide.


[–] pythagorean 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

WTF are you talking about? How is free speech endangered by this? The guy was perfectly free to post his boxer pictures, and still is.


[–] SpaceLizard 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Looks like he suffered consequences from his public employer for posting a photo he took while off duty. The kind of public employer that is not allowed to violate a citizens freedom of speech.


[–] silverprincess12 ago 

It was nice for a while.

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[–] FiftyShadesOfBlack 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Yes, it literally means freedom from consequences...from the government. The first amendment should apply in this case; this is the government punishing speech (as the Supreme Court has extended speech to include clothing).

Cops don't have freedom of speech while on duty, but even they enjoy the protection of the first amendment while off duty.

Unless that photo was taken while he was on that case, sure, fire him for inappropriate behavior.