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[–] IForgotMyUserDetails 2 points 95 points (+97|-2) ago 

So that can get you fired but not murdering innocent civilians?

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[–] Dantastic77 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I seriously feel like I live in some dark timeline that shouldn't exist.

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[–] 492262? 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

If a cop is found guilty of murder, the penalty will be a lot more than just losing their job. The fact that an innocent person died as a result of an officer's actions does not automatically mean it was murder per-se.

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[–] Biohazard 8 points 0 points (+8|-8) ago 

So is voat a big anti-cop circle jerk just like reddit?

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[–] BadCartman 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Local police officers pose the greatest danger for anyone acting outside the accepted societal norm. Cops in my area are awesome, but I'm white and more well to do than the average Joe. Stereotyping cops is much more justified than any other stereotype I can imagine.

Edit: Cops choose their career. Most that deal with stereotypes do not have a choice. The comparison isn't even close.

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[–] FiftyShadesOfBlack 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

anti-cop

while defending a cop's freedom of speech?

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[–] pepepepepe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I don't know if it's a circlejerk but at least we won't ban you for disagreeing with the majority. So there's that I guess.

I think an issue like this reminds us that neither cops on the streets nor their bosses at the station are a hivemind and should be analyzed on a person by person basis, just as we should judge any human.

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[–] Iron_softies 0 points 49 points (+49|-0) ago 

Cops can break the law, abuse their authority, hurt people, even kill people, get paid time off as a consequence. But showing off their Confederate flag boxers on Facebook is what gets them fired.

Sometimes I feel like Charlton Heston on that planet.

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[–] Sariel 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

How long to get the world (or at least the US) go on full Idiocracy-mode?

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[–] rothx 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

so all we need to do now is find corrupt cops, shop them in confederate boxers. win win! I could think of a judge or two that could be shopped.

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[–] toobaditworks 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Or if you want to get them a promotion photoshop them in gay flag boxers.

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[–] NotWearingPants 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They usually get their jobs back, and back pay, because union. This guy will too.

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[–] Maki_Man 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Almost as if some agenda is going on where crimes are encouraged to further it, and anything that is perceived as "politically incorrect" is punishable.

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[–] makingreen 6 points 37 points (+43|-6) ago 

You guys remember freedom of speech? I sure do miss that

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[–] StrongBelwas 8 points 7 points (+15|-8) ago 

You do actually know what freedom of speech means, right? Because sometimes I'm not sure if you fuckers are being serious or not. In any case, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

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[–] didntsayeeeee 2 points 29 points (+31|-2) ago 

Hmm, not in all circumstances.

But public employees should not be fired for their political opinions.

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[–] corsairio 1 point 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

We are talking about the government using their authority to punish speech. If a person that depends on public money like a college professor can be openly racist against white people, then why can't a cop wear confederate underwear?

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[–] reshp1 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It does mean freedom from consequences, from the government. I mean otherwise, people in N Korea also have the right say anything they want, they just get themselves and their family in front of a firing squad as a consequence.

It's debatable here whether the police dept is this cop's employer first or government first I guess. IMO, it's his employer first, in which case your speech isn't necessarily protected.

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[–] SlipperyChicken 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If we were talking about a private business like apple with their recent choices you'd be right. Now we're talking about government telling their employees that they can't wear certain clothing in their off time if it offends someone. I have a strong feeling this is going to court, so we'll see in the future what the courts decide.

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[–] pythagorean 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

WTF are you talking about? How is free speech endangered by this? The guy was perfectly free to post his boxer pictures, and still is.

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[–] SpaceLizard 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Looks like he suffered consequences from his public employer for posting a photo he took while off duty. The kind of public employer that is not allowed to violate a citizens freedom of speech.

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[–] silverprincess12 ago 

It was nice for a while.

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[–] FiftyShadesOfBlack 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Yes, it literally means freedom from consequences...from the government. The first amendment should apply in this case; this is the government punishing speech (as the Supreme Court has extended speech to include clothing).

Cops don't have freedom of speech while on duty, but even they enjoy the protection of the first amendment while off duty.

Unless that photo was taken while he was on duty...in that case, sure, fire him for inappropriate behavior.

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[–] ghost_of_Koah 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I don't consider this a society anymore.

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[–] KoKansei 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Welcome to the matrix.

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[–] cant-stop-us-all 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Has the world been insane this whole time and I didn't notice? /s

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[–] FreshieD 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I take issue with this because it comes with the implication that what you do off the clock is your employer's business. That's a terrible precedent, and we need to put a quick end to it.

As society is increasingly interconnected, people HAVE to accept that when you're off the clock, you're off the fucking clock. We're not slaves owned by our masters. We MUST have our own time to do our own things. It's not like this guy put a patch on his uniform and went on patrol, it's not like he wore the boxers over his uniform like some sort of jackass superhero, he took a picture on his own time that had nothing to do with his employment. If he's a racist, that should be apparent from his actions on duty, and if he's to be terminated, it should be due to his behavior on duty.

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[–] drmoron 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I can't believe the police union allowed the firing...

Prediction: he will be reinstated at a later date, with back pay.

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[–] brbpierogies 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This kneejerking with the confederate flag reminds me of the embarrassment that was freedom fries.

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