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[–] Helios-Apollo 2 points 36 points (+38|-2) ago 

As an Apache helicopter, I like to relieve myself at Vandenberg Air Force Base.

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[–] clamhurt_legbeard 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

APACHES ARE ARMY, NOT AIR FORCE

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[–] Shekelstein6M 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Why are you so transmilitairybranchphobic?

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[–] Gargilius 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

...yep, he did say relieve himself...

(what is the proper pronoun to use for an apache helicopter?)

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[–] therealkrispy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Joint Base Andrews*

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[–] lord_nougat 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

That's a relief!

Thanks for not relieving yourself on my house!

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[–] shitstartercarter 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I identify as a billionaire. Now I want a ferrari, and barret .50 cal.

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[–] 8259790? 5 points 24 points (+29|-5) ago  (edited ago)

Ok, this survey was done by an openly Catholic group who actively opposes trans rights. This is not exactly an unbiased source. They're called CRUX.

The other problem is that THIS is their question:

"Someone who is transitioning to become the opposite sex should be legally allowed to use whichever bathroom they want to?"

NOT that they should be allowed to use one or the other based on what they look like or identify as, but that they should be able to use both. It's a stupid question that no one is arguing.

EDIT:

Link: https://www.docdroid.net/ArVWFKT/crux-marist-poll-national-nature-of-the-sample-and-tables-february-2017-1.pdf.html#page=5

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[–] Ho-Chi-Min-Me 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

NOT that they should be allowed to use one or the other based on what they look like or identify as, but that they should be able to use both. It's a stupid question that no one is arguing.

I agree with the thrust of your post, but my ideal solution to the problem is simply make one mens bathroom, one womens bathroom and let anyone go in any bathroom they want. This is the system we already have. If you harass people in the bathroom, regardless of your gender and regardless of which bathroom you're in - you'll be removed or face penalties. Almost all men will go in the mens, almost all women will go in the womens, almost all trans people will go in the bathroom they identify as (or appear most like that day) - they will all use the bathroom and not bother anyone. Again this is the system we already have - the only problem comes when you tell people to use a specific bathroom or you have someone harassing people in the bathroom.

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[–] 8270154? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You're crazy!

How could we...Not have laws micromanaging who goes into which bathroom and only have laws against the bad behaviour we actually care about?

No, I need the nanny state telling me everything about my life. Humanity literally cannot exist without big brother telling me which sign applies to me!

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[–] therealkrispy 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

It's also, from a grammar standpoint, not a question. It's a statement with a question mark at the end.

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[–] Caesarkid1 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

"Someone who is transitioning to become the opposite sex should be legally allowed to use whichever bathroom they want to?"

Apparently putting a question mark at the end of any sentence makes it a question? The sky is blue? The current year is 2017? Gender is strictly biological?

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[–] OriginalReaper 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Problems arise if a bio male has his wang chopped of, puts on a bra and lipstick, and enters a bathroom marked Men. For most of these cases, this is the bare minimum situatuon i envision. It can get more complicated for sure.

Recently I saw a man walk into the men's bathroom with his daughter who appeared to be 4. He went to a stall to poop, and the girl stood in the corner facing a wall. So here's another example of a gender entering the wrong bathroom.

What if it's an adult woman with a boy? What if it's a woman on testosterone with a beard with a small boy, should they enter the men or women's bathroom? Imagine there is no one around to witness this and no one is offended by the act. Now imagine they're in a crowded theme park. Which is correct?

I really don't give a shit what bathroom people use. There are stalls, which shield identity, and it's not a locker room where everyone walks around naked.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That is how a lot of New Yorkers do it actually. It's like the "confession" in the movie "My Cousin Vinny".

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

I want bathrooms designated by socio-economic status, so I don't have to share with those gross smelly poorfags.

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[–] HowieCameUnglued 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This looks exactly like what BLM is fighting for!

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[–] Wuttier 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Would be an economic boom for plumbers though.

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[–] Totenglocke 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'd b ok with that.

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[–] tapsnapornap 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ah you think you'd be in the middle class toilet. ;)

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[–] ConservativeDev 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

Of course we do! Not that it matters to the mentally ill...

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[–] thetruthoftensux 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Exactly. This issue is what has really changed my position from left leaning to center right.

I support social programs, I support the idea of unions, I support infrastructure. I support domestic production of products, and the party that traditionally stumped for those ideals made letting "mentally ill men in dresses should be allowed to shit in the little girls room" their center stage issue!

That and the concept that telling little kids they could choose their sexual identity when they are too young to even know what that means!

As a middle aged wealthy white male I have finally given up. I don't believe the right will do better by me in the long run, but at least they don't push that shit on me.

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[–] Mylon 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

This is a transman in the women's restroom. This is what your little girl will see when she uses the restroom because you want to keep biological males out.

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[–] therealkrispy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Same, but without social programs. That's and I think government employees shouldn't have unions. The rest can.

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[–] newoldwave [S] 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

So, where have the trannies been going potty before now? Behind a tree?

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[–] Fred 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

They already went to the bathroom that conformed with how they presented. The thing is, no one knew, or if they did know, cared, because the trannies were in the shitter for the same reason everyone else was, to drop some kids off at the pool.

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[–] dingomeat 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago 

People definitely notice and care. When someone is trying to change their kid's diaper and a 6 foot tall woman with a five o clock shadow and a miniskirt stumbles in, you're going to notice.

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[–] 8259572? 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They get their fluids swapped around ever 100000 miles typically

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[–] EvilGamerX 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Tranny here, can confirm we went behind trees.

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[–] moe3hrddrt 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The grassy knoll?

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Did all trannies use the same trees or were there different ones for F2M and M2F?

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[–] dingomeat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They piss in the drain in the janitor's closet.

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[–] therealkrispy 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Try that at a concert or sports venue and watch the lines exceed Six Flags or Maoism.

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[–] hypercat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Porta potties are single shitters. America just has a problem with putting proper doors on toilets. If there were actually floor to ceiling doors on the stalls a lot of this shit would be moot.

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[–] SolarBaby 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Hell yeah. Went to a bar last year that had toilets behind locking individual doors but the sink/mirror area was communal. Actually was a good system.

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[–] HowieCameUnglued 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

urinal anxiety

As someone who doesn't suffer from this, what's the fear here? Is it being judged?

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[–] aria_taint 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Because there no fucking such thing as gender identity! It's a mental disorder.

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[–] OneNutWonder 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

can we work on having bathrooms with floor to ceiling stall walls and doors that don't have gaping cracks that people can look through to check if anyone is taking a dump before anything else first? Also, how about softer TP in bathrooms too, I think most of us would be a lot happier if we didnt walk out after taking a shit with bleeding assholes.

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[–] therealkrispy 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Agreed. Foot activated flush would be cool too. And while we're at it, let's get panic buttons in there, especially in women's rooms. When pressed, the stall automatically unlocks, lights flash, and facility staff trained to crack rapist skulls are alerted. They have them at the mall by my house.

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