[–] Viropher 2 points 35 points (+37|-2) ago 

Lets also not forget that the 'US border' is 100miles Inland. So even if youre 99miles inland,safe in your home town, and border patrol stops you,you have no constitutional rights.None, because youre at the border,and not technically in the US. Look up 'Constituion Free Zones'.

[–] Ciscogeek 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Man that's so fucked.

[–] second_mouse 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Also, if I remember correctly, international airports are considered "borders", so it applies 100 miles from the airport in every direction. So they pretty much have jurisdiction everywhere.

[–] MedicalMountainGoat 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Thats absolutely fucking ridiculous if true. People should be up in a rage about this shit.

[–] Viropher 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Airports indeed follow this rule, but dont extend 100mi from the airport,its just the airport.

[–] Thisismyvoatusername 6 points 3 points (+9|-6) ago 

That's not really how that law (and related regulation) works. But it is no doubt good for the ACLU's fundraising efforts. On the other side of the aisle, it is also good for InfoWars viewer numbers. Still, calling a cat a dog doesn't make it one. The law does have issues, but it is not nearly as bad as your post makes it sound.

[–] Redditequalsdaesh 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

The customs and border agents (white and green vehicles) patrol the I-94 corridor in Michigan all day long. They sit in the turn arounds like where state police run radar and profile as you drive past. Saw one just this last Sunday near Chesterfield as I was headed north with the wife to our friends offshore race boat manufacturing facility near Algonac.

[–] AndinBriwel 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Haha, that's EXACTLY how the law works! Go visit Arivaca, AZ, 30 miles north of Mexico, and see it in action for yourself as you try to get back to Tucson. There are impromptu CBP checkpoints set up there that have been in place for 8 years straight now, 24/7/365.25

Imagine having to stop at a checkpoint every single time you go to work. Or the mall. Or walmart. Or the movies. Or starbucks. Or absolutely anywhere outside your neighborhood. Imagine a CBP checkpoint where, once you drive into it, you are required to stop, and signage is there to clearly let you know that the CBP has the right to detain you, search you and your stuff, even confiscate your stuff - you are not in the U.S., as you thought, you are in a checkpoint at "the border." The only problem is, you are NOT at "the border." You are in Arivaca, AZ, a small town of something like 600 people, 30 miles away from the border, where there are already US customs checkpoints as you'd expect, and a wall fence all along there. You are a U.S. citizen, born in the U.S., and living in a U.S. town, 40 min drive from the border, yet you have to stop and subject yourself to scrutiny of federal agents every single time you leave home, because, according to them, you are guilty until proven innocent and not a citizen unless you can prove you are. There is no route to work, gas, or retail without stopping at a checkpoint. This IS reality in America, in Arivaca, AZ, and in many other small towns within 100 miles of the southern border, and has been for 8 years straight now. Every day, every drive, no recourse, no accountability, no repercussion, no 4th amendment rights, no 5th amendment rights, no U.S. Citizen rights whatsoever, because, thanks to "security," you are not "in the U.S." You are "at the border."

How is it that change.org and the ACLU is the side willing to see how wrong this is and fight it, while the pro-border-security people think this is perfectly okay? Protecting the border and controlling who is allowed through is good for any sovereign nation. Subjecting their citizens to such scrutiny daily, treating them as if they are always suspect and not citizens just because they live too close to the border, is not. This is not freedom, liberty or justice, and the ACLU should not be the spearhead in fighting it. Constitutionalists should be leading the fix!

CBP Arivaca Checkpont Image

[–] AndinBriwel 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Came here to say this. And, if you live in a small town like Arivaca, AZ, 30 miles from the border, you can't get to work - or walmart - without stopping at a makeshift, auxiliary CBP checkpoint. Every.... Single.... Time.... you leave your home to go to town. There is not an alternate route. Every route has a checkpoint. Mind you, the actual border has checkpoints as well, and this is an area where the border has a continuous fence. These checkpoints have been in place 24/7 for 8 years straight now.

[–] OKythen 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well considering the rules that the "authorities" have to play with they are doing a FUCKING SHIT job.

Last I heard the US had millions of illegals there....

[–] Little2934 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

If I never travel internationally again, I'm super okay with that.

[–] Ciscogeek 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Or I'll just dig up an old smartphone, move the sim and wipe it prior to travel. Not link it to any email accounts, or delete them just before hitting the airport.

[–] Redditequalsdaesh 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Get a cheap flip phone from Virgin Mobile. Great company and keep it new in box and ready for those vacations when you shouldn't be on a phone anyway. Activate it the day of the trip and let them have at it if asked. Travel agent and emergency contacts are all you need if you are doing things right. You also don't have to worry about an expensive phone getting jacked when you aren't looking or sleeping off drinks on the beach.

[–] oneposteach 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'd be careful with that because I have recovered shit from my phone even after being deleted before. Not aware if they have a bleachbit for android.

[–] 8Hz_WAN_IP 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Depending where you go, lots of phones get stolen from travelers, not a bad idea anyways.

[–] ranch-othelioma 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This. Done it a few times. Easypeasy. I mostly did it in case of mugging/theft.

[–] MedicalMountainGoat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Eh... I kind of like traveling and do it several times per year. Thats not really an option.

[–] llwish 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Wow... that is scary. I'm buying a burner next time I'm out if the country.

[–] Ciscogeek 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Or 100mi in it...

[–] 8090082 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Lucky it was somebody from NASA, imagine if they did this to someone who might have real sensitive data on their phone.

[–] caelaorn 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yeah easy answer is just to factory reset your phone before going through customs.

[–] 8090254 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's easy for a developer, here some methods for Android devices with custom ROM:

1- Using fake user-interface, android UI is a app with different flags (set hardware-key combo to unlock the original UI)

2- Root device, hide sensitive files in the root directories, then unRoot the device

3- Store data encrypted in a cloud like Dropbox, then edit Dropbox apk to hide App-Launcher icon (the app is not launch-able or visible anymore!)

possibilities are endless if you know how this things work.

[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's better to just have two phones, two laptops, etc. The only concern is not getting searched coming back into the US. Indeed, that is probably less of a concern than other reasons (unless you are a terrorist or a trafficker of child pornography).

[–] Ciscogeek 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's not so easy if you don't have backups of your important data, like app specific storage. (android land)

[–] 0Cursed0 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Burner phones are a must just bring a little black book.

[–] EngelbertHumperdinck 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Then they'll just steal your little black book. Instead, post the contents on a password protected website, rent a phone at the airport and then retrieve your info.

[–] Plavonica 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

A simple text file in an e-mail to yourself would work.

[–] 0Cursed0 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No one reads books now days TL:DR

[–] heili 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

And spend a ton of money in data charges to upload/download. Especially if you happen to, like most tourists, take any vacation pictures with your phone.

This guy's suggestions are unreasonable for most people.

[–] Forevermary 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

good article but i'm bothered by the fact that the author is recommending Google, Apple, and Facebook for storing your data because they have "world-class security"

[–] jerrykantrell 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Very interesting article, thanks OP!

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